Different Standards?

[Blackdog92 2,047]

I believe that any dog has the potential to be a good dog if your willing to put the time and effort in to get him/her to a standard which you are happy with. But good breeding does help and can make the difference between a good dog and a excellent dog. As long as your happy with how your dog works and it gets the job done who can call you on it.

Most off these people who call everyone else's dogs useless but there own are full of s**t you can't have perfect dogs all the time.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

There are thousands of dogs that fail to reach they're potential for many reasons ..............be it poor diet , lack of training , lack of work and most of LACK OF THE RIGHT P.R

 

I've sat and listen to an old friend wax lyrical about the achievement of his dog one night. I didn't tell him at the time but waited until the listening crowd had subsided to tell him what I thought..............He looked me in the eye and believed his own lies . I never trusted a word he said after that . I'd spent hours and hours watching that dog and it was never capable of such feats.

The night he mentioned I was there so the number rung true but the amount of dogs didn't.

 

The point I'm making is that a few half truths a great dog is born and the legend begins

 

I may be going of tangent here but it's along the same lines as a thread last night that got me thinking about a coursing dog argument about to big names .............I sat back and looked at lads getting behind a dog they never saw run . I remember thinking how can you form a valid opinion on which is the better dog when you haven't seen one never mind both perform.

 

The major problem with running dogs and finding the best is there is no bench mark. No weather condition. field , rabbit is the same so how do you find the comparison . A dog doing a hundred rabbits a night can be no better than a dog that never see's that many

 

So does it boil down to which dog has the most Ambitious owner?

What a reply. That's what I'm talking about.

[SirRichardCecil 70]

I agree Gaz on the stud dog topic there is quite a few dogs being bummed up and recommended by folk who have never actually seen the dog in flesh let alone see it run. I also agree with Hot meat he was bang when saying some people think they have better than they have actually got.

The Hunting Life certainly produces a lot of lurcher legends

Edited March 24, 2014 by SirRichardCecil

[Ideation 8,216]

Striving for the best is no bad thing.

 

It's why you do it tht needs thinking about.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

I believe that any dog has the potential to be a good dog if your willing to put the time and effort in to get him/her to a standard which you are happy with. But good breeding does help and can make the difference between a good dog and a excellent dog. As long as your happy with how your dog works and it gets the job done who can call you on it.

Most off these people who call everyone else's dogs useless but there own are full of s**t you can't have perfect dogs all the time.

I agree to an extent. I know 2 decent dog men that have had runners for 30 odd years and a handful of dogs in that time. And they have all made the grade.

 

Is that down to luck?

 

Good rearing, good food and a good kennel won't give the dog them extra minerals required when the going gets tough. Wether that was doing fox and hare pre ban or trying to get 100 rabbits on the lamp today.

[Chid 6,489]

Bumming up and breeding off untested dogs

 

Wasn't it you who I've got a pm from saying you was tempted to put a dog (that's not even 3 yet) over your bitch (that you was going to pts the other month) ..

 

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Striving for the best is no bad thing.

 

It's why you do it tht needs thinking about.

Some lads are naturally competitive and want a better mutt than the next man. If they are going about it the right way then is that a problem do you think?

[Blackdog92 2,047]

 

There are thousands of dogs that fail to reach they're potential for many reasons ..............be it poor diet , lack of training , lack of work and most of LACK OF THE RIGHT P.R

 

I've sat and listen to an old friend wax lyrical about the achievement of his dog one night. I didn't tell him at the time but waited until the listening crowd had subsided to tell him what I thought..............He looked me in the eye and believed his own lies . I never trusted a word he said after that . I'd spent hours and hours watching that dog and it was never capable of such feats.

The night he mentioned I was there so the number rung true but the amount of dogs didn't.

 

The point I'm making is that a few half truths a great dog is born and the legend begins

 

I may be going of tangent here but it's along the same lines as a thread last night that got me thinking about a coursing dog argument about to big names .............I sat back and looked at lads getting behind a dog they never saw run . I remember thinking how can you form a valid opinion on which is the better dog when you haven't seen one never mind both perform.

 

The major problem with running dogs and finding the best is there is no bench mark. No weather condition. field , rabbit is the same so how do you find the comparison . A dog doing a hundred rabbits a night can be no better than a dog that never see's that many

 

So does it boil down to which dog has the most Ambitious owner?

What a reply. That's what I'm talking about.

I agree. But don't we all have the same ambition and strive to get the most out of all are dogs? How can you expect to get the most out of them if you don't give them every chance possible.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Bumming up and breeding off untested dogs

 

Wasn't it you who I've got a pm from saying you was tempted to put a dog (that's not even 3 yet) over your bitch (that you was going to pts the other month) ..

 

Yeh that's me. I was going to put her to sleep because she jacked but instead I'm putting a young stuff dog over her.

 

FFS have a word with yourself Chid.

[Chid 6,489]

 

Bumming up and breeding off untested dogs

 

Wasn't it you who I've got a pm from saying you was tempted to put a dog (that's not even 3 yet) over your bitch (that you was going to pts the other month) ..

 

Yeh that's me. I was going to put her to sleep because she jacked but instead I'm putting a young stuff dog over her.

 

FFS have a word with yourself Chid.

I've still got the pm

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

There are thousands of dogs that fail to reach they're potential for many reasons ..............be it poor diet , lack of training , lack of work and most of LACK OF THE RIGHT P.R

 

I've sat and listen to an old friend wax lyrical about the achievement of his dog one night. I didn't tell him at the time but waited until the listening crowd had subsided to tell him what I thought..............He looked me in the eye and believed his own lies . I never trusted a word he said after that . I'd spent hours and hours watching that dog and it was never capable of such feats.

The night he mentioned I was there so the number rung true but the amount of dogs didn't.

 

The point I'm making is that a few half truths a great dog is born and the legend begins

 

I may be going of tangent here but it's along the same lines as a thread last night that got me thinking about a coursing dog argument about to big names .............I sat back and looked at lads getting behind a dog they never saw run . I remember thinking how can you form a valid opinion on which is the better dog when you haven't seen one never mind both perform.

 

The major problem with running dogs and finding the best is there is no bench mark. No weather condition. field , rabbit is the same so how do you find the comparison . A dog doing a hundred rabbits a night can be no better than a dog that never see's that many

 

So does it boil down to which dog has the most Ambitious owner?

What a reply. That's what I'm talking about.

I agree. But don't we all have the same ambition and strive to get the most out of all are dogs? How can you expect to get the most out of them if you don't give them every chance possible.

There is no black and white yes or no answer. I just wanted a few lads opinions and a bit of a debate.

 

Me putting in as much time and miles as I can might be nowhere near enough time and miles to the next man.

[SirRichardCecil 70]

Chid reading threw topics on this site I seem to recall you bumming dogs up you have never seen.

Can you honestly say you have not done so?

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

Bumming up and breeding off untested dogs

 

Wasn't it you who I've got a pm from saying you was tempted to put a dog (that's not even 3 yet) over your bitch (that you was going to pts the other month) ..

 

Yeh that's me. I was going to put her to sleep because she jacked but instead I'm putting a young stuff dog over her.

 

FFS have a word with yourself Chid.

I've still got the pm

I will get you a THL gold star.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Chid reading threw topics on this site I seem to recall you bumming dogs up you have never seen.

Can you honestly say you have not done so?

Yeh he was doing it to me via PM

[Ideation 8,216]

I don't see nowt wrong with trying to better what you've got, but an obsession with having better than everyone else I find a wee bit odd.

 

That's where the bullshit comes in!

 

I've never met a good dog man who was much concerned with what other folk had.