L.a. Dogs ...bbc 2

[baw 4,360]

Baw if you came in my house I would love for my dog to savage you

I'm great with dogs mate, even the most ferocious turn to jelly in my company me and yer dog would be best of mates, you'd be f***ing green with envy

[General lee 979]

The mails are good attack dogs but I can't see the point it's like having a machine gun yeh it will stop robbers but a so will a smaller gun I think dogs like them are better left to police and army but it's not up to me to say what people should or shouldn't have if that's what they want good luck to them

[johnny 2 367]

Untill a couple of years ago i had a neopolitanxbullmastiff.I could let any one in the house with me,he would be a bit aloof at first but then fine.imo a good gaurd dog should not attack for no reason.

[keepdiggin 9,561]

I wouldn't choose a Mali as a guard dog, they are way to clever to be kept in a little cage all day it would drive one nuts.

 

 

@jonny If my guard dog didn't attack an intruder and just stood there barking and let them enter my home I guarantee the dog wouldn't not be getting fed by me the next day.

[Ideation 8,216]

 

 

 

You got a job for the daily mail Baw?

 

How is the dog a danger to society? Is it regularly let loose to run about in public?

 

And actually just how many herding or protection type dogs, owned by sensible folk, are really in the papers each week killing folk?

 

Or is it more chavs with bull breeds that have been untrained and poorly handled etc etc.

 

It's a bit of an assumption to say the dog is not fully under control. . . . if he can be let into the room with you when you are there, but takes umbridge when someone enters the house who isn't part of the 'pack'.

 

It's a guard dog . . . . it's doing it's job.

Right....... So a dog, even though its owners present, is fully under control even though its ripping your throat out cos you didn't know the golden rule? HAW HAW HAW, quality that. No, it's job is to guard from intruders, guests aren't f*****g intruders and if the dog can't be trained to recognize the difference then it ain't under control.

Bit busy to entertain you today. . . .

 

But no i'd say, if you came in without an introduction or being 'allowed' in. . . . . you are an intruder, in the dogs eyes. So that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

 

How many folks have their dogs robbed by someone who has been there before, a so called friend?

 

As usual you love changing the argument mid stream to try to make people sound daft. No one said out about a dog ripping a guest apart while the owner stood there.

 

I do wonder Baw if you are like this in real life lol? You're probably one of those people that drifts between fairly amusing and really f*****g annoying

f**k me, is it a full moon? Your the one moving the goal posts. If you came in without an invite or introduction your an intruder. Well stone me, I never knew that. Here is what the guy actually wrote, read it carefully and get back to me

 

I like them a lot, a falconer I know over here has one, he has to let me in the house first, with the dog shut away & then when I sit down, he'll let it in to greet me............any other way, it would nail me! Lol

 

 

I'm not entirely sure how I can speak slower for you over the computer???

 

I said you were an 'intruder' in the dogs eyes. Like when my lot go mental because one of my mates is opening the gates to my yard, until they have seen the person, it's an intruder. . . . and often even if they have seen them, they are still an intruder to the dog, until the pack leader (i.e me, or that other dogs owner) have sanctioned their presence in the packs territory. . . . and thus rendered them. . . . no longer an 'intruder' to the dog.

 

So if that dog does not nail the bloke when its been introduced to it. . . . . does that not make the dog trained? He's trained to nail anyone that he doesn't see as part of the pack, who come into the house, unless already there and obviously accepted by the 'pack leader'.

 

It's kind of the point of having a guard dog. . . . not much good if you have to tell it to go for someone. . . . . if you are not there!

[johnny 2 367]

I wouldn't choose a Mali as a guard dog, they are way to clever to be kept in a little cage all day it would drive one nuts.

 

 

@jonny If my guard dog didn't attack an intruder and just stood there barking and let them enter my home I guarantee the dog wouldn't not be getting fed by me the next day.

Thats not what i said.If a stranger tried to get in the house or my van when he was in there they would of been in real trouble!

[keepdiggin 9,561]

@jonny mis-read what you said.

[baw 4,360]

 

 

 

 

 

You got a job for the daily mail Baw?

 

How is the dog a danger to society? Is it regularly let loose to run about in public?

 

And actually just how many herding or protection type dogs, owned by sensible folk, are really in the papers each week killing folk?

 

Or is it more chavs with bull breeds that have been untrained and poorly handled etc etc.

 

It's a bit of an assumption to say the dog is not fully under control. . . . if he can be let into the room with you when you are there, but takes umbridge when someone enters the house who isn't part of the 'pack'.

 

It's a guard dog . . . . it's doing it's job.

Right....... So a dog, even though its owners present, is fully under control even though its ripping your throat out cos you didn't know the golden rule? HAW HAW HAW, quality that. No, it's job is to guard from intruders, guests aren't f*****g intruders and if the dog can't be trained to recognize the difference then it ain't under control.

Bit busy to entertain you today. . . .

 

But no i'd say, if you came in without an introduction or being 'allowed' in. . . . . you are an intruder, in the dogs eyes. So that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

 

How many folks have their dogs robbed by someone who has been there before, a so called friend?

 

As usual you love changing the argument mid stream to try to make people sound daft. No one said out about a dog ripping a guest apart while the owner stood there.

 

I do wonder Baw if you are like this in real life lol? You're probably one of those people that drifts between fairly amusing and really f*****g annoying

f**k me, is it a full moon? Your the one moving the goal posts. If you came in without an invite or introduction your an intruder. Well stone me, I never knew that. Here is what the guy actually wrote, read it carefully and get back to me

 

I like them a lot, a falconer I know over here has one, he has to let me in the house first, with the dog shut away & then when I sit down, he'll let it in to greet me............any other way, it would nail me! Lol

I'm not entirely sure how I can speak slower for you over the computer???

 

I said you were an 'intruder' in the dogs eyes. Like when my lot go mental because one of my mates is opening the gates to my yard, until they have seen the person, it's an intruder. . . . and often even if they have seen them, they are still an intruder to the dog, until the pack leader (i.e me, or that other dogs owner) have sanctioned their presence in the packs territory. . . . and thus rendered them. . . . no longer an 'intruder' to the dog.

 

So if that dog does not nail the bloke when its been introduced to it. . . . . does that not make the dog trained? He's trained to nail anyone that he doesn't see as part of the pack, who come into the house, unless already there and obviously accepted by the 'pack leader'.

 

It's kind of the point of having a guard dog. . . . not much good if you have to tell it to go for someone. . . . . if you are not there!

Jesus lumping f**k, are taking the piss or just pretending to be dumb today? The guy said no matter if the owners there or not, the dog would nail him if the dog was in the house, you got that so far? So if the guys mother came calling, he brings her in the house as a guest, she's getting nailed. Does that sound like a dog under control to you? I can imagine telling the grieving relatives, sorry but the dog was under control at all times, it's just that it's trained to attack anyone who enters the house no matter if I'm there or now, sorry, rip maw...... A dog kept in a house showed know if its masters there and welcomes a guest in, it's ok, they are ok. ANY dog that lacks that basic training ISN'T under control. I really can't dumb that down anymore I'm afraid.

[mushroom 13,178]

I think Baw's gay, Ideation is Jesus and a toy poodle would knock the fuuck out of a Mali

[baw 4,360]

I think Baw's gay, Ideation is Jesus and a toy poodle would knock the fuuck out of a Mali

gay, I'm not the one dragging my baws sunshine

[Accip74 7,112]

Just to clarify a little.......though I'm not sure why I'm bothering lol.......the guy in question lives in a not so nice area on the outskirts of Antwerp & he has possibly many 100's if not 1000's of €'s worth of BOP, & I must admit, maybe he's a little paranoid about the local immigrant community........

 

But anyway, I've been there on 3 occasions & each time he's known I was coming & each time we go through the same routine with the dog & she's good as gold........I would assume if he looks through the window/spy hole & doesn't know the person, then that dog would be loose somewhere in the house, when answering the door, then if he's gonna let the person in, he'll shut the dog away & go through the process I described.

 

If......he opens the door & someone produces a knife, orders him in........then surely if the dogs fine with everyone who walks through the door with its owner, it's not gonna be much use in that situation......for all I know, he may have a attack command as well, I really don't know.

 

It's not exactly what I would want in my house, but it works for him..........as for being out of control, thats just a matter of opinion.

[Ideation 8,216]

Define control?

 

Can its owner call it off mid attack? That would be interesting to know.

 

Also depends I guess if the dog is like it with everyone or just strangers?

 

And if the dog lives as part of the family or just runs about as a guard when no ones there?

[Accip74 7,112]

Define control?

Can its owner call it off mid attack? That would be interesting to know.

Also depends I guess if the dog is like it with everyone or just strangers?

And if the dog lives as part of the family or just runs about as a guard when no ones there?

It's very much part of the family, it go's everywhere with guy, he has no day job, so it's out & about all the time.........to be honest I only know what I've seen & I'm relaxed around it......

[johnny 2 367]

@jonny mis-read what you said.

No worries.The point I was trying to get accros is a good gaurd dog should no the difference between a stranger breaking in your house and you enviting somebody in.

[baw 4,360]

Define control?

 

Can its owner call it off mid attack? That would be interesting to know.

 

Also depends I guess if the dog is like it with everyone or just strangers?

 

And if the dog lives as part of the family or just runs about as a guard when no ones there?

Define control control is the dog doing what you want it to be doing in any given situation. It's like this, a lurcher is out of control when it gets slipped on a hare. No matter what you do that dog is focused on its prey. If you slip the dog and the farmer steps out with a rifle you'll soon realize the dog isn't under your control. Now it's the same with this dog only the prey is someone entering the property no matter if its friend or foe, no matter if its masters there or not, they are getting nailed. The dog is a liability, isn't trained properly and no matter how you try to argue against that, deep down you know I'm right.