rossthedog 76 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 A sensitive question this one and one I have my own opinions on,if a vixen is killed this time of year leaving a litter of orphaned cubs generally will they be preyed upon or will they starve.My shovels are put away now and unless a dreaded call out comes they will stay unused till next winter but road casualties and riflemen will still be at it. Quote Link to post
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I think they would be looked after by the dog and other members of the pack if they're weaned, as the other previous litter members help the vixen with food Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 If they are unweaned they are goners .Juries out on whether or not the dog helps at all IMO.Rest of pack ? 2 Quote Link to post
block end 242 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 If they are unweaned they are goners .Juries out on whether or not the dog helps at all IMO.Rest of pack ?did see a programme vixen got run over vixen from previous litter feed the cubs think it was that spring watch cubs under a shed " Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,466 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Running with the fox is a good book for anyone interested in the habits of foxes. 5 Quote Link to post
whitefeet4190 1,725 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I am interested in the habits of foxes but not at £56 I am just googled it, but if anyone want to sell one cheap I'd be interested 2 Quote Link to post
ands 544 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 If they are unweaned they are goners .Juries out on whether or not the dog helps at all IMO.Rest of pack ?did see a programme vixen got run over vixen from previous litter feed the cubs think it was that spring watch cubs under a shed " I thought that vixen killed the other vixens cubs then raised her own under the shed? Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 JMHO but at this time of the year the only sensible form of fox control is the terrier and that should only be when a fox needs controlling. But it has been proven that if the mother of a litter does get killed , for example, on the road etc. that the dog fox or barren vixens or both will raise the litter. 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Just to add, it's also been known for two litters to be raised together by both vixens, aunts and the dog foxes. Let's face it, we're talking about one of the ultimate survivors here. If he wasn't he'd be extinct by now, LOL. But the terrier is the only means we have of solving the problem by removing the predator and the reason for the predation when there is a problem. 4 Quote Link to post
Irishman 117 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Well said Neil Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) When the tits with the rifles get fed up shooting road sighens and They turn there attention to eyes. Any eyes !!!!! id bring in a licence for rifles that monitored the skill and field craft and have a qarry test on the lamp all so. Fooking hate rifles To many out there. Get one with no experience then kill everthing that draws breath Edited March 18, 2014 by gonetoearth 5 Quote Link to post
Irishman 117 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Me and you will get on ok gonetoearth LOL Cant have guns at all the ruination of fox hunting Edited March 18, 2014 by Irishman 2 Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Me and you will get on ok gonetoearth LOL Cant have guns at all the ruination of fox hunting. Oh no we would not 4 Quote Link to post
Irishman 117 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Me and you will get on ok gonetoearth LOL Cant have guns at all the ruination of fox hunting. Oh no we would not LOL i wont sleep tonight now i shouldnt have put the ireland flag up Quote Link to post
fox digger 1,086 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 When the tits with the rifles get fed up shooting road sighens and They turn there attention to eyes. Any eyes !!!!! id bring in a licence for rifles that monitored the skill and field craft and have a qarry test on the lamp all so. Fooking hate rifles To many out there. Get one with no experience then kill everthing that draws breath i have a couple of rifles mate but im not all bad!! i know what your saying, the problem will be epademic here in ireland next year. there was a seminar given last weekend by a group of sweeds who intend to buy fox skins and were demonstrating how to correctly skin and prepare the pelt. they recon there is big demand and there is high prices involves as they made out the irish fox pelt is the perfect texture and quality compaired to there native fox or those from other countries. I know some gun clubs sent representatives up to this seminar to find out about it. I heard all this second hand so facts may vary slightly but the general structure is that foreigners are comming over offering very high prices for pelts.......... it will without doubt have detramental effects to all forms of hunting as lads will see £££££ and literally lamp full time..... Quote Link to post
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