baw 4,360 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 who changed the name of the thread No GTE, I am an uncle though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 who changed the name of the thread No GTE, I am an uncle though. lol i was expecting more of a answer lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Who would rather see a hare get shot than coursed, serious question? Lab?I'd rather see a hare, fox, rabbit or deer coursed....far more exciting. The point is some plsces have lots of hares and they need controlling...or some folk like to shoot the odd one for the pot.If you think that's wrong or worse you would vote to ban the shooting of hares( unbelievable) then your deluded. So running dogs on game is more exciting and better for the quarry?Could the 1000s of decent lads with lurchers not put a big enough dent in their numbers,if given the opportunity? Definitely needs to change imo. I would see no problem in that.I do find it funny though that some of you lurcher guys think it's disgusting to shoot a few hundred hares but you wouldn't bat an eyelid if it was a few hundred killed by coursing them. If you don't like shooters just come out and say it...Baw talks some shite on the subject but atleast he just says it how it is. Making out it's caring for the hares is a load of shite...yous just don't like shooters. Exactly lab, get them told. Least I ain't too faced, you know I hate the fat pet killers Come on mate tell us what happened, did you get your shotgun application turned down There ain't much chance of me getting one of them shooters are out for themselves. I used to be behind all fieldsports, each to there own etc. but the more shooters you bump into the more you realize every c**ts supposed to make way for there sport. Look at the BOP thread, they ain't even happy if one even looks at there tame birds lol. If you share permission with a shooter no matter if your ferreting, dogs, hawks, whatever, the c**t will think he has the right to hunt more than you. i shoot and run dogs sometimes even at the same time, i must hate myself and try to out do myself at every opportunity Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fireman 10,993 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I thought all the hare's caught shown these last few winters on this lurcher page were shot first and then dog retrieved second 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bryson 562 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 i dont agree with shooting hares but at the end of the day there is huge numbers getting shot year after year and the numbers dont seem to be reducing now 1 of the previous posts stated a hare eats the same as 1 sheep if the hare drives didnt happen it seems like they could start causing a real problem now what options would that leave the farmers/land owners ???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 i dont agree with shooting hares but at the end of the day there is huge numbers getting shot year after year and the numbers dont seem to be reducing now 1 of the previous posts stated a hare eats the same as 1 sheep if the hare drives didnt happen it seems like they could start causing a real problem now what options would that leave the farmers/land owners ???? 3 hare`s consume the same amount of pasture as 1 sheep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bryson 562 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 i dont agree with shooting hares but at the end of the day there is huge numbers getting shot year after year and the numbers dont seem to be reducing now 1 of the previous posts stated 3 hares eat the same as 1 sheep if the hare drives didnt happen it seems like they could start causing a real problem now what options would that leave the farmers/land owners ???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bryson 562 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 i dont agree with shooting hares but at the end of the day there is huge numbers getting shot year after year and the numbers dont seem to be reducing now 1 of the previous posts stated a hare eats the same as 1 sheep if the hare drives didnt happen it seems like they could start causing a real problem now what options would that leave the farmers/land owners ???? 3 hare`s consume the same amount of pasture as 1 sheep haha thats what i meant Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clipo 871 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 i dont agree with shooting hares but at the end of the day there is huge numbers getting shot year after year and the numbers dont seem to be reducing now 1 of the previous posts stated a hare eats the same as 1 sheep if the hare drives didnt happen it seems like they could start causing a real problem now what options would that leave the farmers/land owners ????3 hare`s consume the same amount of pasture as 1 sheep shoot the sheep then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 i dont agree with shooting hares but at the end of the day there is huge numbers getting shot year after year and the numbers dont seem to be reducing now 1 of the previous posts stated a hare eats the same as 1 sheep if the hare drives didnt happen it seems like they could start causing a real problem now what options would that leave the farmers/land owners ????3 hare`s consume the same amount of pasture as 1 sheepshoot the sheep then that's why theres no hares in Wales Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Who would rather see a hare get shot than coursed, serious question? Lab?I'd rather see a hare, fox, rabbit or deer coursed....far more exciting. The point is some plsces have lots of hares and they need controlling...or some folk like to shoot the odd one for the pot.If you think that's wrong or worse you would vote to ban the shooting of hares( unbelievable) then your deluded. So running dogs on game is more exciting and better for the quarry?Could the 1000s of decent lads with lurchers not put a big enough dent in their numbers,if given the opportunity? Definitely needs to change imo. I would see no problem in that.I do find it funny though that some of you lurcher guys think it's disgusting to shoot a few hundred hares but you wouldn't bat an eyelid if it was a few hundred killed by coursing them. If you don't like shooters just come out and say it...Baw talks some shite on the subject but atleast he just says it how it is. Making out it's caring for the hares is a load of shite...yous just don't like shooters. Exactly lab, get them told. Least I ain't too faced, you know I hate the fat pet killers Come on mate tell us what happened, did you get your shotgun application turned down There ain't much chance of me getting one of them shooters are out for themselves. I used to be behind all fieldsports, each to there own etc. but the more shooters you bump into the more you realize every c**ts supposed to make way for there sport. Look at the BOP thread, they ain't even happy if one even looks at there tame birds lol. If you share permission with a shooter no matter if your ferreting, dogs, hawks, whatever, the c**t will think he has the right to hunt more than you.At the risk of offending, you don't half talk some crap at times Baw.. All the shooters I know are equally as happy walking round the fields with a ferret box, dog and lamp, hawk, whatever.. I ain't saying people are the same all over, but I'd say the type of people you're describing are the rich professional types who pay hand over fist to spend a day a week on a big estste stood on a peg at the blasting away for the social aspect of if. Not all shoots and shooters are like that as most people who know the countryside well will know.. I'd say the people you're describing are outnumbered by normal lads who like a bit of shooting by a fair margin.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 i dont agree with shooting hares but at the end of the day there is huge numbers getting shot year after year and the numbers dont seem to be reducing now 1 of the previous posts stated a hare eats the same as 1 sheep if the hare drives didnt happen it seems like they could start causing a real problem now what options would that leave the farmers/land owners ???? 3 hare`s consume the same amount of pasture as 1 sheepshoot the sheep then that's why theres no hares in Wales says who? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 The conception of 'shooters' is interesting. I guess it depends who you meet. I'm sure if you did a pool there would be more sgc's held by normal, ordinary working class and country folk, who just did a bit of rough or vermin shooting, than by wealthy game shooters from the upper classes. . . . However, having had the opportunity to visit some very big estates in recent years on shoot days across the country . . . . . i'd have to admit that at the top of the tree, the driven shooting world is full of arseholes, obviously there are some very sound folk as well . . . . but there is defiantly a breed of shooter who fits baws description to a T. But then on the flip side. . . . there are just as many dog men who are total wankers in every respect. I think at the end of the day you have to accept that most folk are wankers . . . . Out of interest, what's more morally wrong, a team of guns unsportingly blasting 1000 hares on land that has many more and can return to the same pre shoot level by the following season? Or the lad who very sportingly courses and catches a hare with his dog. . . . . that's one of the very few hares in the area? And possibly damages the population by doing so? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 The conception of 'shooters' is interesting. I guess it depends who you meet. I'm sure if you did a pool there would be more sgc's held by normal, ordinary working class and country folk, who just did a bit of rough or vermin shooting, than by wealthy game shooters from the upper classes. . . . However, having had the opportunity to visit some very big estates in recent years on shoot days across the country . . . . . i'd have to admit that at the top of the tree, the driven shooting world is full of arseholes, obviously there are some very sound folk as well . . . . but there is defiantly a breed of shooter who fits baws description to a T. But then on the flip side. . . . there are just as many dog men who are total wankers in every respect. I think at the end of the day you have to accept that most folk are wankers . . . . Out of interest, what's more morally wrong, a team of guns unsportingly blasting 1000 hares on land that has many more and can return to the same pre shoot level by the following season? Or the lad who very sportingly courses and catches a hare with his dog. . . . . that's one of the very few hares in the area? And possibly damages the population by doing so? we all are guilty of this to some point, are all politicians wankers? or in reality is it just what's projected to achieve yet another political aim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
francolin 449 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 are these days fact or fiction ,3oo hare days ect,and then they recover after each breeding season,plus all the others taken by other means./predators,starting to wish they had hare drives nr us if there that good for the population.do foxes come back in large numbers were the rifle boys take massive numbers of cubs and adults. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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