fordson 33 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Kirstysdad,this is 1979,my first 2 plummers given to me to test on fox by Brian,tiny little things only about 10" TTS,he still called them russells then,these 2 bitches were out the same litter and the red was only dominant in 50% of the litters due to the breeding off white bodied dogs,this was his mousey headed stage, not long after this he was producing terriers that were too big for smallish tight holes,the laugh is when those bitches came in season he sent me to Ruthin,North Wales for a stud off his more famous dogs of that time in an attempt to produce a slightly bigger terrier around 12"-13" but all them stud dogs were 16"-17"TTS scans 007.jpg these bitches could work a fox but were only yappers really,great for quick bolts but if they did'nt want to move or took a heavy puncture then they'd come out and I'd leash her up,I'd then let the proper earthdog in as I kept many types of terrier back then and it would be a dig.I mated those bitches to a well known "Nuttall" dog hard as nails and produced some of the best little earthdogs around and brought the size and shape up as well. scans 012.jpg I'd love to say she did that damage to the fox but she never,her ambition far outweighed her ability.The red bitch behind did that damage,that was her calling card,bred by George Hardy of N. Wales. I'm not wanting to get into an argument, or anything, but are you saying you bred off bitches would come out? jackers?spewers? curs? Why would you want to do such a thing when you had many proper earth dogs? Why not breed off your proper earth dogs instead? I can't understand that bit. Sorry if I'm being a bit thick? You neednt apologise for being a bit thick,among educated people i would imagine its well known,your sly insecure manner and backstabbing nastiness is proof of that,you have done nothing for fieldsports other than help the antis with your pathetic comic books,you are a nothing thats found a easy way to make money out of a tradition and way of life that was kept among people who took part in it. Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Kirstysdad,this is 1979,my first 2 plummers given to me to test on fox by Brian,tiny little things only about 10" TTS,he still called them russells then,these 2 bitches were out the same litter and the red was only dominant in 50% of the litters due to the breeding off white bodied dogs,this was his mousey headed stage, not long after this he was producing terriers that were too big for smallish tight holes,the laugh is when those bitches came in season he sent me to Ruthin,North Wales for a stud off his more famous dogs of that time in an attempt to produce a slightly bigger terrier around 12"-13" but all them stud dogs were 16"-17"TTS scans 007.jpg these bitches could work a fox but were only yappers really,great for quick bolts but if they did'nt want to move or took a heavy puncture then they'd come out and I'd leash her up,I'd then let the proper earthdog in as I kept many types of terrier back then and it would be a dig.I mated those bitches to a well known "Nuttall" dog hard as nails and produced some of the best little earthdogs around and brought the size and shape up as well. scans 012.jpg I'd love to say she did that damage to the fox but she never,her ambition far outweighed her ability.The red bitch behind did that damage,that was her calling card,bred by George Hardy of N. Wales. I'm not wanting to get into an argument, or anything, but are you saying you bred off bitches would come out? jackers?spewers? curs? Why would you want to do such a thing when you had many proper earth dogs? Why not breed off your proper earth dogs instead? I can't understand that bit. Sorry if I'm being a bit thick? You neednt apologise for being a bit thick,among educated people i would imagine its well known,your sly insecure manner and backstabbing nastiness is proof of that,you have done nothing for fieldsports other than help the antis with your pathetic comic books,you are a nothing thats found a easy way to make money out of a tradition and way of life that was kept among people who took part in it. Hey, I only asked a question, it's the first question any terrierman would ask. Why were jackers/spewers bred from? Hardly a personal attack or being sly. I was just very very curious as to why, that's all. as, I am sure, every single terrierman is on here. 1 Quote Link to post
swede40 92 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Kirstysdad,this is 1979,my first 2 plummers given to me to test on fox by Brian,tiny little things only about 10" TTS,he still called them russells then,these 2 bitches were out the same litter and the red was only dominant in 50% of the litters due to the breeding off white bodied dogs,this was his mousey headed stage, not long after this he was producing terriers that were too big for smallish tight holes,the laugh is when those bitches came in season he sent me to Ruthin,North Wales for a stud off his more famous dogs of that time in an attempt to produce a slightly bigger terrier around 12"-13" but all them stud dogs were 16"-17"TTS scans 007.jpg these bitches could work a fox but were only yappers really,great for quick bolts but if they did'nt want to move or took a heavy puncture then they'd come out and I'd leash her up,I'd then let the proper earthdog in as I kept many types of terrier back then and it would be a dig.I mated those bitches to a well known "Nuttall" dog hard as nails and produced some of the best little earthdogs around and brought the size and shape up as well. scans 012.jpg I'd love to say she did that damage to the fox but she never,her ambition far outweighed her ability.The red bitch behind did that damage,that was her calling card,bred by George Hardy of N. Wales. I'm not wanting to get into an argument, or anything, but are you saying you bred off bitches would come out? jackers?spewers? curs? Why would you want to do such a thing when you had many proper earth dogs? Why not breed off your proper earth dogs instead? I can't understand that bit. Sorry if I'm being a bit thick? You neednt apologise for being a bit thick,among educated people i would imagine its well known,your sly insecure manner and backstabbing nastiness is proof of that,you have done nothing for fieldsports other than help the antis with your pathetic comic books,you are a nothing thats found a easy way to make money out of a tradition and way of life that was kept among people who took part in it. Hey, I only asked a question, it's the first question any terrierman would ask. Why were jackers/spewers bred from? Hardly a personal attack or being sly. I was just very very curious as to why, that's all. as, I am sure, every single terrierman is on here. You are abit of a bellend Darcy but i agree with what you said but i think wirrallcountrymans a bellend as well 2 Quote Link to post
Hot Meat 3,109 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) So I take it there ain't gonna be a Plummer terrier book done anytime soon by Darcy publications........ Edited March 25, 2014 by Hot Meat 3 Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 So I take it there ain't gonna be a Plummer terrier book done anytime soon by Darcy publications........ It would be highly unlikely. :laugh: Quote Link to post
STRANGER 948 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Why not? According to this thread there are loads of people digging them, regularly Quote Link to post
Benellisupernova 104 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 So I take it there ain't gonna be a Plummer terrier book done anytime soon by Darcy publications........ It would be highly unlikely. :laugh: why not? im sure wirral countryman would would help you out 1 Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Come on chaps, lets keep this thread on track.... It''s a thread about Plummers and not my pathetic comics. Cheers. 5 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Come on chaps, lets keep this thread on track.... It''s a thread about Plummers and not my pathetic comics. Cheers. Yep, gotta agree here... Its all about 'honest' debate... and I'm all for finding out more from all parties concerned, I'm enjoying this one... Now, where's that microwave popcorn? Quote Link to post
swede40 92 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Dont think its a debate its a thread about the dogs of old ive seen a few of the dogs mentioned on this thread from a good few years ago and they were decent animals and you could dig to them ive seen it with my own eyes i am not sure about the dogs of today though 90% of them seem a far cry from the ones i saw a decade or so ago Quote Link to post
NEWSBOY 306 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Kirstysdad,this is 1979,my first 2 plummers given to me to test on fox by Brian,tiny little things only about 10" TTS,he still called them russells then,these 2 bitches were out the same litter and the red was only dominant in 50% of the litters due to the breeding off white bodied dogs,this was his mousey headed stage, not long after this he was producing terriers that were too big for smallish tight holes,the laugh is when those bitches came in season he sent me to Ruthin,North Wales for a stud off his more famous dogs of that time in an attempt to produce a slightly bigger terrier around 12"-13" but all them stud dogs were 16"-17"TTS scans 007.jpg these bitches could work a fox but were only yappers really,great for quick bolts but if they did'nt want to move or took a heavy puncture then they'd come out and I'd leash her up,I'd then let the proper earthdog in as I kept many types of terrier back then and it would be a dig.I mated those bitches to a well known "Nuttall" dog hard as nails and produced some of the best little earthdogs around and brought the size and shape up as well. scans 012.jpg I'd love to say she did that damage to the fox but she never,her ambition far outweighed her ability.The red bitch behind did that damage,that was her calling card,bred by George Hardy of N. Wales. I'm not wanting to get into an argument, or anything, but are you saying you bred off bitches would come out? jackers?spewers? curs? Why would you want to do such a thing when you had many proper earth dogs? Why not breed off your proper earth dogs instead? I can't understand that bit. Sorry if I'm being a bit thick? You neednt apologise for being a bit thick,among educated people i would imagine its well known,your sly insecure manner and backstabbing nastiness is proof of that,you have done nothing for fieldsports other than help the antis with your pathetic comic books,you are a nothing thats found a easy way to make money out of a tradition and way of life that was kept among people who took part in it. Hey, I only asked a question, it's the first question any terrierman would ask. Why were jackers/spewers bred from? Hardly a personal attack or being sly. I was just very very curious as to why, that's all. as, I am sure, every single terrierman is on here. its a genuine question, sure enough, but loads a dog lads have done it, with terriers and coursing dogs, even the celebs of the game and you know it 2 Quote Link to post
NEWSBOY 306 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Why not? According to this thread there are loads of people digging them, regularly there isnt, never was, never will be. 2 Quote Link to post
fordson 33 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Why not? According to this thread there are loads of people digging them, regularly there isnt, never was, never will be. it dosnt matter how many there are getting worked ,or what they are worked at ,if owners are good enough to share there stories and explain about the dogs they dont desevre to be criticised by self appointed gods of the dog world, 3 Quote Link to post
fordson 33 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Kirstysdad,this is 1979,my first 2 plummers given to me to test on fox by Brian,tiny little things only about 10" TTS,he still called them russells then,these 2 bitches were out the same litter and the red was only dominant in 50% of the litters due to the breeding off white bodied dogs,this was his mousey headed stage, not long after this he was producing terriers that were too big for smallish tight holes,the laugh is when those bitches came in season he sent me to Ruthin,North Wales for a stud off his more famous dogs of that time in an attempt to produce a slightly bigger terrier around 12"-13" but all them stud dogs were 16"-17"TTS scans 007.jpg these bitches could work a fox but were only yappers really,great for quick bolts but if they did'nt want to move or took a heavy puncture then they'd come out and I'd leash her up,I'd then let the proper earthdog in as I kept many types of terrier back then and it would be a dig.I mated those bitches to a well known "Nuttall" dog hard as nails and produced some of the best little earthdogs around and brought the size and shape up as well. scans 012.jpg I'd love to say she did that damage to the fox but she never,her ambition far outweighed her ability.The red bitch behind did that damage,that was her calling card,bred by George Hardy of N. Wales. I'm not wanting to get into an argument, or anything, but are you saying you bred off bitches would come out? jackers?spewers? curs? Why would you want to do such a thing when you had many proper earth dogs? Why not breed off your proper earth dogs instead? I can't understand that bit. Sorry if I'm being a bit thick? You neednt apologise for being a bit thick,among educated people i would imagine its well known,your sly insecure manner and backstabbing nastiness is proof of that,you have done nothing for fieldsports other than help the antis with your pathetic comic books,you are a nothing thats found a easy way to make money out of a tradition and way of life that was kept among people who took part in it. Hey, I only asked a question, it's the first question any terrierman would ask. Why were jackers/spewers bred from? Hardly a personal attack or being sly. I was just very very curious as to why, that's all. as, I am sure, every single terrierman is on here. well the person to ask would of been him,my guess would of been he wanted to improve on what he had. Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 And i did ask him the question, nowhere did i criticise. It was you that made personal remarks and took the thread off topic. I simply asked a question relating to what had just been posted. Nothing more, nothing less...... And I think it was a fair question to ask. Quote Link to post
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