Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 ponte Did you an tranner every dig to this bitch..first plummer i saw work fox Had her at mine for a good while. 2 Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 mother to this. if i had my time again with one dog it would be this old bugger.... 1 Quote Link to post
ponte 222 Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 ? Various dogs came for a day out Newsboy will no all there names. a plummer dog came out with us ( once, my be a few times, carnt really remember, my memory is crap ) that failed this dog became some top stud and show dog.... I Would rather not name it Let sleeping dogs lie, so the saying goes. It Was a long time ago.... Plummers have moved on since I owned them. Quote Link to post
lacey1 71 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 another pic Great pic .that's the first time I've seen a pic of Bob reminds me of his Sire in that pic ,his litter btr was a serious dog at the end of digs people were to say bob looked a bit like stanhill billy dont u think? Yes he did Lee , 1 Quote Link to post
NEWSBOY 306 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 ponte Did you an tranner every dig to this bitch..first plummer i saw work fox Had her at mine for a good while. we never dug to it Quote Link to post
lacey1 71 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 mother to this. if i had my time again with one dog it would be this old bugger.... His litter sister wasn't a bad little ratter rated by everyone who saw her,she is still with me now at nearly 12 , 5 Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Glad, she is still around. You know I rated her, just got on with the job and was always great to watch. Quote Link to post
lacey1 71 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) mother to this. if i had my time again with one dog it would be this old bugger.... His litter sister wasn't a bad little ratter rated by everyone who saw her,she is still with me now at nearly 12 , This was the result from the day the pick of the bitch was taken Edited March 17, 2014 by lacey1 3 Quote Link to post
wirral countryman 2,110 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Ponte, you're dead right when you say "Plummers" have moved on, but where to is the question ?? 95% of todays stock will never see any serious work, back in the day all the "Plummers" I ever owned or went out with flew to ground, were very aggressive but worked none the less, like some other terrier breeds many were too hard and some were too big having to dig up to their quarry but they all worked to a degree, for the last 10 yrs or so there have only been a few lads working them in the manner they were meant and its a shame not to see them in common use as in the past, targeted middle class ownership by the clubs have helped the ruination of them as a working terrier along with many health problems innate because of it, your memories and pics are from a time gone by and there aren't many terriers of their sort about today, WM 2 Quote Link to post
deck 35 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 fair play lads great pics of what modern plummers should look and work like today. Quote Link to post
lacey1 71 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 This dog is the last one I used for a pup for myself ,trying to double up on the same lines as all the old lines in the pics above ,also I have seen him out and about for 8 years ,I feel for prey drive the old Vandal lines has to be heavily featured 1 Quote Link to post
ponte 222 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Wirral My thoughts were that to much emphasis was placed on nice red colours, straight fronts, straight legs, joining the kc..etc etc....over working ability I found conversations years ago with enthusiasts, including chats with Plummer himself that left me totally frustrated on the direction people wanted the breed to go. Earthwork discussions, were moved to one side and producing a nice type that was presentable to the kennel club, showing etc.. was what people wanted to talk about, I remember putting the phone down and shaking my head in despair. All I wanted to do was mooch about with my scruffy dogs, have a dig here and there, chase a rabbit or two with the lurchers, i could see people were trying to draw me in to picking sides, The politics and infighting, I really didn't need it. I still think there's probably loads of plummers out there that have a dig or two in them. I think the stuff Allan and his mate use, and the lines in them would produce earth dogs above a lot of the other lines, without question. Ponte 1 Quote Link to post
s.e.s.k.u 1,893 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 been a good read this... never dug to a plummer but have to this bitch who is plummer (monty) x Russell. usually baying but mixes if she needs to. 6 years old 1 Quote Link to post
ponte 222 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Mmmm I think I know that wood. Quote Link to post
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