Dogs That Don't Make The Grade Or Jack.

[TOMO 26,425]

I don't think it's hard for a big dog to catch a rabbit,,,in fact quite the opposite ,,,,,, I think your dogs and other dogs that won't run rabbits,,but will deer,,,is simply because they prefer them,,,, I honestly think,,,,the dog thinks it's below them,,,and they get a real liking for the deer,,,,,as you say,,,it might be an old inherited thing from thousands of years ago in there minds,,,wolfs natural prey.....

 

But I don't agree because rabbits are to hard for them

[lapin2008 1,587]

 

i have run mainly gsdxg for the last 44 years and in all that time i have learned that gsdxg like pure german shepherds have the ability to think for themselves they are not the average point and let go lurcher.in the lamp they will not exspend energy .unlike most lurchers if they see a rabitt and it is close to the hedge they will realise that to run at it is being stupid they will approach the rabitt at a steady pace .if the rabitt is on the edge of the hedge they realise 9 times out of ten it will escape into cover .if with a point and go dog they will lurk along the hedge line waiting for the game to run in .they catch a lot of rabitts on the squat in the lamp as they are very clever and do not rush in like point and go dogs.if used on deer preban they will for the most part go strangely blind in the lamp when rabitts are about .i have seen them course hares preban and stop chaseing yet the next one they have run ragged .deer preban were far easier for gsd xg to catch they were as good as dead in a open field big 27 inch 85lbs dogs prefer to run big stuff .unless you have actually owned this type of lurcher and have worked it hard you would not realise how clever these lurchers are .they are not for anyone who exspects thier dog to chase anything and everything because being very clever they have unlike the average point and go lurcher the ability to think for themselves.at times they can be very annoying at other times thier ability to think for themselves can be amazeing.especially when pursuing stuff in woodland cover that the average point and go lurcher is not capable of doing

what species of deer you talking about? i understand that preban deer dogs take abit of getting going back on the rabbits when they have been catching alot of deer and a good deer dog will run past rabbits to go to deer. however for you to say a dog refused to run rabbits because they wanted easier to catch bigger stuff just sounds abit daft. wouldnt be nice if you could go out and catch 20 deer in a night as easy you could go and catch 20 rabbits preban? the old school boys would have been very wealthy people

 

Its a vision thing in my opinion.

When the dogs were running only deer and often through say the roe buck season they always seemed to look straight through rabbits or not spot them in the same way on the first time out back on the rabbits. The first night on rabbits would normally be fairly frustrating with dogs running off not knowing where they are supposed to be heading. I never put this down to a lack of desire just a resettling back into another type of hunting/quarry. Had it the other way round as well after a few months on only rabbits. If running them on both or a variation of all game all the time, I never noticed a problem switching between.

[fitchet 788]

This season I had a bitch go given to me on a trial. Fast stocky with a good brain and mouth. She had only ever seen a couple of doubled up long ears in the lamp. Anyway I gradually entered it to most quarry and it got real good at tracking roe and muntjac so much so that by the end of the season it totally ignored rabbits. Ive never seen it before and I'll doubt I'll see it again but this dog still won't pick up rabbits on its own but will try them when out with other dogs. I rehomed her to someone who's out regular with me and she's keeping up her deer dropping habits but still won't pick rabbits up wich is abit of a shame as she was handy enough.

 

Has anyone else seen this before ?? Totally refusing to run rabbits but runs everything else 100% ???

[Hot Meat 3,109]

Gsdxg your Alsatian crosses ain't they only type of mutt that acts that way, so having to run that cross to understand is shite, lots of crosses try it of you work them enough.... If that type of half hearted mutt can keep you happy then so be it, but some folk expect more, and get it. Don't make them bad people tho to have higher standards does it????

 

 

Iv had dogs that never made the grade( yet I don't buy adult dogs) so what category does that put me in??? Lol

[RossM 8,121]

A sense of adapt and overcome springs to mind.......

[lurcherman887 178]

Gsdxg your Alsatian crosses ain't they only type of mutt that acts that way, so having to run that cross to understand is shite, lots of crosses try it of you work them enough.... If that type of half hearted mutt can keep you happy then so be it, but some folk expect more, and get it. Don't make them bad people tho to have higher standards does it????

 

 

Iv had dogs that never made the grade( yet I don't buy adult dogs) so what category does that put me in??? Lol

The honest category

[CRAZYHORSE 2,647]

if I had a dog that jacked, I would have my testicles removed so there was no chance of me producing another shit dog owner

[gsdxg 10]

hot meat i agree that some people exspect thier dogs to do it all and most will but when i was talking about the gsdxg cross i am talking about a very clever dog that has like the gsd a ability to think for itself it is not a point and go lurcher .this type of cross will go blind in the lamp on rabitts but you get them in really thick woodland cover on deer fox preban then you would see whaht they were designed for tracking and on thier chosen prey deer fox .in thick woodland they are supreme .i can assure anyone that owns this cross would not be dissapointed with this cross preban.they are good bushing dogs and excellent gun dogs .very tough very very strong good thick pads and good coat .but they do have the ability to think for themselves .i have seen this cross used as a gun dog a long net dog a retrieveing dog a bushing dog .one or two were excellent hare dogs preban .if you want a obedient servant that canott think for itself .then dont breed a gsdxg but if you want a dog with the brains and ability to think for itself get a gsdxg .this cross is not going to be every ones cup of tea .i have had only one that would chase everything every time but he was a gsd xdg xcg .i would exspect one or two gsdxg would be willing to chase everything but i found once introduced to deer preban mine were not intrested in small prey after a while .

[lapin2008 1,587]

hot meat i agree that some people exspect thier dogs to do it all and most will but when i was talking about the gsdxg cross i am talking about a very clever dog that has like the gsd a ability to think for itself it is not a point and go lurcher .this type of cross will go blind in the lamp on rabitts but you get them in really thick woodland cover on deer fox preban then you would see whaht they were designed for tracking and on thier chosen prey deer fox .in thick woodland they are supreme .i can assure anyone that owns this cross would not be dissapointed with this cross preban.they are good bushing dogs and excellent gun dogs .very tough very very strong good thick pads and good coat .but they do have the ability to think for themselves .i have seen this cross used as a gun dog a long net dog a retrieveing dog a bushing dog .one or two were excellent hare dogs preban .if you want a obedient servant that canott think for itself .then dont breed a gsdxg but if you want a dog with the brains and ability to think for itself get a gsdxg .this cross is not going to be every ones cup of tea .i have had only one that would chase everything every time but he was a gsd xdg xcg .i would exspect one or two gsdxg would be willing to chase everything but i found once introduced to deer preban mine were not intrested in small prey after a while .

 

what you're describing sounds a bit like any decent lurcher

[Hot Meat 3,109]

Thank fook somebody else said it lol gsdxg you my friend are kennel blind lol try a diffrent cross I assure you you will be surprised lol

[sniper2011 69]

hot meat i agree that some people exspect thier dogs to do it all and most will but when i was talking about the gsdxg cross i am talking about a very clever dog that has like the gsd a ability to think for itself it is not a point and go lurcher .this type of cross will go blind in the lamp on rabitts but you get them in really thick woodland cover on deer fox preban then you would see whaht they were designed for tracking and on thier chosen prey deer fox .in thick woodland they are supreme .i can assure anyone that owns this cross would not be dissapointed with this cross preban.they are good bushing dogs and excellent gun dogs .very tough very very strong good thick pads and good coat .but they do have the ability to think for themselves .i have seen this cross used as a gun dog a long net dog a retrieveing dog a bushing dog .one or two were excellent hare dogs preban .if you want a obedient servant that canott think for itself .then dont breed a gsdxg but if you want a dog with the brains and ability to think for itself get a gsdxg .this cross is not going to be every ones cup of tea .i have had only one that would chase everything every time but he was a gsd xdg xcg .i would exspect one or two gsdxg would be willing to chase everything but i found once introduced to deer preban mine were not intrested in small prey after a while .

heard this same song about mal x and they was found to be just bigged up cyber dogs,if the gsd was as great as you say then why are they not popular

[Giro 2,648]

 

hot meat i agree that some people exspect thier dogs to do it all and most will but when i was talking about the gsdxg cross i am talking about a very clever dog that has like the gsd a ability to think for itself it is not a point and go lurcher .this type of cross will go blind in the lamp on rabitts but you get them in really thick woodland cover on deer fox preban then you would see whaht they were designed for tracking and on thier chosen prey deer fox .in thick woodland they are supreme .i can assure anyone that owns this cross would not be dissapointed with this cross preban.they are good bushing dogs and excellent gun dogs .very tough very very strong good thick pads and good coat .but they do have the ability to think for themselves .i have seen this cross used as a gun dog a long net dog a retrieveing dog a bushing dog .one or two were excellent hare dogs preban .if you want a obedient servant that canott think for itself .then dont breed a gsdxg but if you want a dog with the brains and ability to think for itself get a gsdxg .this cross is not going to be every ones cup of tea .i have had only one that would chase everything every time but he was a gsd xdg xcg .i would exspect one or two gsdxg would be willing to chase everything but i found once introduced to deer preban mine were not intrested in small prey after a while .

heard this same song about mal x and they was found to be just bigged up cyber dogs,if the gsd was as great as you say then why are they not popular

 

 

Most lurcher owners are messers.. GSD & Mals for real dog men

[beast 1,884]

remember BLACK GREYHOUND?

[Hot Meat 3,109]

Sounds like him lol at the least he is as breed blind as him lol

[beast 1,884]

Sounds like him lol at the least he is as breed blind as him lol

 

no mention of malamutes yet.............