Countryfile Report On Halal And Kosha Meat

[paulus 26]

i watched the programme last night and its been niggling me all-day, the figures they were quoting seemed strange, so this got me thinking, A) the figues did not include imported meat. the meat industries own figures did not mirror theres, here is part of a report

 

Industry estimates suggest strong Muslim demand for chicken and lamb has resulted in about 40% of poultry and 25-30% of lamb consumed in the UK meeting halal specification.

 

the whole report http://www.fwi.co.uk/articles/23/09/2010/123611/meat-industry-defends-halal-slaughter-policy.htm

 

 

i understand there belief about saying a prayer before cutting its throat but i don't understand the need for it to be not stunned in order to do this, the argument was that the animal would not be concious and as such could not hear the prayer, forgive me for being silly here but has anyone ever said they have spoke to a sheep and they have understood what they have said,

 

next they left out cattle, strange one that as i would like to have been shown how they stun them before they said the words and then cut their throats, to comply with their religious beliefs,

 

next comes the RSPCA`s stance on un stunned slaughter, they seem more concerned with how its labelled rather than how it was slaughtered.

 

"The RSPCA said that it was proposing all meat produced from animals that had not been stunned before slaughter should be clearly labelled. "The RSPCA believes that consumers have the right to choose whether or not they wish to buy meat from animals slaughtered without pre-stunning."

 

strange given there need to prosecute anyone who sneezes the wrong way at an animal,

 

my own view is if the animal is stunned prior to slaughter then they can pray all they want during that slaughter.

 

strange thing this religion.

 

[paulus 26]

heres a thought, im driving down the road and find a deer with a broken leg, so i whip out my knife and slit its throat all witnessed by an RSPCA inspector, would that be ok or animal cruelty

[pip1968 2,490]

heres a thought, im driving down the road and find a deer with a broken leg, so i whip out my knife and slit its throat all witnessed by an RSPCA inspector, would that be ok or animal cruelty

id say it was kosha

[paulus 26]

 

heres a thought, im driving down the road and find a deer with a broken leg, so i whip out my knife and slit its throat all witnessed by an RSPCA inspector, would that be ok or animal cruelty

id say it was kosha

 

but then lets say it was your dog that broke its leg, now surely if its humane for sheep/goats/cows/and poultry then its humane on all animals, that the bit that bugging me more than anything

[billy whizz 141]

Halal meat is a f***ing disgrace its barbaric and its blessed in Allah's name plus you have no idea if you are eating it eg when eating out ect no need in it,its every were and the thing is they dont even have to actually eat halal,its imposed on school dinners KFC Dominos pizzas ect i never order food or buy that shit.

 

The main reason for me is ive see the videos and they dont slice the throat of the animal the cut there f***ing heads off all most.

 

i try educate people i know but there that thick they just dont get it

 

Boycott it!!!

[paulus 26]

Halal meat is a f*****g disgrace its barbaric and its blessed in Allah's name plus you have no idea if you are eating it eg when eating out ect no need in it,its every were and the thing is they dont even have to actually eat halal,its imposed on school dinners KFC Dominos pizzas ect i never order food or buy that shit.

 

The main reason for me is ive see the videos and they dont slice the throat of the animal the cut there f*****g heads off all most.

 

i try educate people i know but there that thick they just dont get it

 

Boycott it!!!

this is not a religious bashing thread by the way, just trying to get my head around as to whether its humane or not when an animal is not stunned.

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

Straight and honest answers to two of ye questions, mate;

 

1. They simply don't stun cattle. Just slash the carotid artery and leave them, in a neck clamp, to bleed to death fully conscious.

 

2. I did that to a Dog once. Police sanctioned it (off the record. RTA job)

 

Arsepca got involved, later down the line. Said cutting its artery was fine. " It's considered a perfectly normal manner of euthanasia, in several other countries and cultures. We have no problem with it. "

[paulus 26]

Straight and honest answers to two of ye questions, mate;

 

1. They simply don't stun cattle. Just slash the carotid artery and leave them, in a neck clamp, to bleed to death fully conscious.

 

2. I did that to a Dog once. Police sanctioned it (off the record. RTA job)

 

Arsepca got involved, later down the line. Said cutting its artery was fine. " It's considered a perfectly normal manner of euthanasia, in several other countries and cultures. We have no problem with it. "

but the police were interested in this case http://www.cumbriacrack.com/2014/02/02/horror-dog-found-throat-cut/

[paulus 26]

and the RSPCA

 

• North West Evening Mail
• News

BARROW DOG THROAT SLASHED

Last updated at 17:11, Tuesday, 04 February 2014

A DOG walker has spoken of her shock after discovering a dead dog with its throat slashed thrown onto a grass verge in Barrow.

RSPCA investigators have launched a probe to track down whoever left the beige lurcher to die in such a callous way.

[Born Hunter 17,812]

I don't like it and would certainly prefer it be labelled by law.............. but I can't help but feel a bit of a hypocrite to say it's plain wrong. I'm not really sure on my moral stance tbh.

 

I felt the Muslim came across better than the Jew, who I had nothing but contempt for after he had finished his bit, arrogant tosser!

[pip1968 2,490]

 

 

heres a thought, im driving down the road and find a deer with a broken leg, so i whip out my knife and slit its throat all witnessed by an RSPCA inspector, would that be ok or animal cruelty

id say it was kosha

 

but then lets say it was your dog that broke its leg, now surely if its humane for sheep/goats/cows/and poultry then its humane on all animals, that the bit that bugging me more than anything

 

i would also arrest you for carrying a knife in a public place

[TOMO 26,765]

What pissed me off,,,,was last weeks program when Adam was doing a thing on dog food,,,,,and he stated dogs were OMNIVORES,,,,,for fucks sake,,,,

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

Obviously, I can't speak for every copper, in every police force, under every imaginable circumstance, mate.

 

The Dog was an RTA. It was visibly fubar. Arsepca had been called and said we could f**k off, at that time of night. Vet was called and said he was going back to sleep. I said I'd finish it with my knife.

 

The two coppers who'd attended the scene after an onlooker called them agreed that, if I had the stomach for it, I was okay. I did.

 

They even drove me some miles, to dispose of the poor thing. All of this strictly between the three of us though. That was our understanding.

 

Things later got funky and, through a chain of circumstance involving none of us three, I wound up having a cosy chat with the local filth. That's when he told me Their take on things.

 

 

[walshie 2,804]

Makes my blood boil how we constantly cow-tow to these religions.They might need to know it's Halal, and everyone bends over backwards to ensure they know what's what, but I need to know my food isn't. It's worrying to hear the figures and realise how much Halal stuff gets into the "normal" food chain.

 

I'm all for meat being labelled as stunned or not stunned because I wouldn't buy it if it was Halal because a: I don't agree with it and b: I don't want to line the pockets of these heathens.

[paulus 26]

so i am down to the simple fact, is killing an animal by slitting its throat humane or not, but that then leads to the question of why we stun them in the name of humane slaughter , this shit gets very confusing....................more cider needed