Nick3439 83 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) I have an old 3 shot bolt action .410; and recently I've been getting stoppages where the fired cartridge fails to extract but is cleared by cycling again and ejecting the spent cartridge. However going out today I found that the cartridge would not be pulled out by the bolt as it would 'pull' free from the extractor and remain in the chamber. Inspection of the cartridges shows they've split on the brass. So my question is this is the problem: A) dodgy cartridges the chamber wearing over time and being slightly too large now causing the brass to expand more than it should 'blocking it in' C) weak extractor spring or worn extractor? D) something else Finally how would you fix this problem... Edited March 10, 2014 by Nick3439 1 Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 3" carts in a 2 3/4" chamber Quote Link to post
Nick3439 83 Posted March 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 3" carts in a 3" chamber Quote Link to post
delswal 3,819 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 You say it's an old 4.10, which is now causing cartridges to split . Get it serviced by a gunsmith or scrap it , because one day you may wish you had . atb … del Quote Link to post
Froudy 40 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 How old are the cartridges? Have you tried a different brand and does it still do it? Quote Link to post
Nick3439 83 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Brand new cartridges... Delswal; that's less than helpful, it's not exactly problem solving the issue... Quote Link to post
rimmer 33 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Its B the chamber has excessive wear. Quote Link to post
Nick3439 83 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 So Rimmer; nothing can be done? Quote Link to post
delswal 3,819 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Brand new cartridges... Delswal; that's less than helpful, it's not exactly problem solving the issue... taking the gun to a gunsmith aint helpful ????? …….well you crack on asking all the would be gunsmiths ……..good luck anyway Quote Link to post
Nick3439 83 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 No delswal taking it to a gunsmith does not answer my questions of 'what's causing this' It's like saying; "my car battery is dead, is it the battery, the alternator or something else?" And you replying "take it to a mechanic" Quote Link to post
Bootsha 1,306 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 whats prob causing this is wear in the chamber, allowing the brass too much room to expand, thus splitting it, only other possibillities have already been covered, ie magnum shell in standard chamber. Theres not enough support for the brass when the charge goes off, so the brass expands until it meets its constraints, over expanding and splitting. Reloading boys will tell you that its a sure sign of too much powder charge, or too fast / hot a powder being used in a rifle bullet. Hope this helps. ( see Delswal you clever f****r, thats called being constructive, answer the mans question you english heathen , prison education again i guess ) 2 Quote Link to post
rimmer 33 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 to be honest i`m not sure if it can be fixed, i know they can build up various bits that wear but not sure about chamber. If it can be fixed it will cost there is no doubt about that. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 to be honest i`m not sure if it can be fixed, i know they can build up various bits that wear but not sure about chamber. If it can be fixed it will cost there is no doubt about that. what make and model is the 410 Quote Link to post
Nick3439 83 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Webley and Scott "Sportsman" I've had it since I was like 12 Quote Link to post
blackbaronfish 0 Posted March 14, 2014 Report Share Posted March 14, 2014 A gunsmith would be able to measure the chamber and rule it out. BBF Quote Link to post
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