jossa 971 Posted March 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 The ridgeback bitch that was originally used came from across the pond when a bloke moved over here. She was a 100% working dog. I dont want a debate im just asking if anyone else has experienced this breed Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 Do you mean, 'experienced this breed' as in Ridgeback, or the multitude of dogs in the mix in your title? If you mean cross bred lurcher with ten ton of bull blood then yes, I have seen a few out and was, at one time, after a pup out of one. That Ridgeback bitch from across the pond, was it the USA, if so I'd like to know more about her. I see Ridgebacks as houndy baying dogs, which were used to hold Lions at bay but thats at bay and not tackling them. Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,668 Posted March 8, 2014 Report Share Posted March 8, 2014 There was a litter (maybe two) bred about 15 years back with Ridgeback in 'em. All the ones i knew made very good dogs, particularly on bigger gear BUT they had a fair % of bull in 'em too, so I could never be sure that the Ridgeback did add anything for the dog... Lets be dead honest here, if we all read an Observers book of dogs (showing my age!) from 20 years ago, apart from the 'Toy' breeds, every dog could be used as a worker BUT the reality is that they can't and, as Bird said, are simply show dogs with 99% of the work bred out of 'em. Yep, maybe in their native SA and in Oz there are some that'll graft BUT don't start thinking about these dogs as a baseline for Lurcher production.... Don't forget, the ones I seen were bull crosses 'with' Ridgeback in 'em. Makes all the difference IMO.... Observers books ,more like 30 years ago,lol those Collins gem books been out few years now 2 Quote Link to post
Ausnick 190 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 The dogs I have here with ridgeback in them have incredible noses, tough skin, tough feet and can kill fighting game all night long... your not on this side of the pond mate, im sure some of the ridgebacks over your way are from working stock. we on the other hand havent had the oppertunity to utilise the breed for what they were intended for many moons now!! secondly how much of there positive attributes are directly from the ridgeback? im asking that as curiosity. The ridgebacks here are no different to yours haha. Just some people get them from show stock and if they work they work. If they don't, they get dealt with. The ridgebacks definitely add an incredible precise nose that's for sure. Tough skin is another thing. It's definitely the bull, borzoi and staghound that add the fight and feet though. Quote Link to post
Ausnick 190 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 There's no "lines" of working ridgebacks in my country that I know of is what I'm saying. Quote Link to post
Ocset 91 Posted March 9, 2014 Report Share Posted March 9, 2014 This dog never faltered, faced anything, never bayed, got stuck in and stayed, he was from show lines and KC registered. I owned him. Those are the facts, first hand. 6 Quote Link to post
Silversnake 1,099 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 ridgebacks are beautiful dogs with beautiful temperaments. they certainly have alot of athletic benefits too. i have seen them crossed and used as pigdogs successfully and heard of them used as back up for staghounds on deer. i currently have a 1/2 ridge x stag grey which is very good on foxes and larger game but is a bit heavy for hares and rabbits. i am curious to see if he was put over a sighthound how the offspring would perform on the faster, lighter game. if you wished to experiment with something other than the usual bull x or whatever i think a good ridgeback would be a great option. i imagine when the first saluki came around people would have said use a grey or a deerhound the same way they are now saying use a bull. if you never ever go you will never ever know... Quote Link to post
bird 9,941 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 This dog never faltered, faced anything, never bayed, got stuck in and stayed, he was from show lines and KC registered. I owned him. Those are the facts, first hand. don't know when the dog did them things,? but looking at this pic it don look fit+fast enough to do the above .? 2 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,546 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 I had a ridgeback x last season she got injured and had to pts but she was a hell of a hunting dog and loved having her about ! Quote Link to post
Ocset 91 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 This dog never faltered, faced anything, never bayed, got stuck in and stayed, he was from show lines and KC registered. I owned him. Those are the facts, first hand. don't know when the dog did them things,? but looking at this pic it don look fit+fast enough to do the above .? Who mentioned speed? The dog wasn't fast, that wasn't his job, he wasn't a tunning dog. People were questioning the use os Ridgeback blood. Most of those people haven't got the first clue about the breed and it's working ability. Your previous comments demonstrate a lack of real experience. I'd of though someone that runs a GSD x would have a better idea of what different breeds can do. How many Ridgebacks or Ridgeback blooded lurchers have you worked? You seem sure about what they're capable of so I assume you've done a fair bit with them. Otherwise you're just given an opinion that you've made up with no experience. The dog was barely a year old in those photos, but I'm sure you knew that and your comment about him not being fit was just a typo. Quote Link to post
bird 9,941 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 This dog never faltered, faced anything, never bayed, got stuck in and stayed, he was from show lines and KC registered. I owned him. Those are the facts, first hand. don't know when the dog did them things,? but looking at this pic it don look fit+fast enough to do the above .? Who mentioned speed? The dog wasn't fast, that wasn't his job, he wasn't a tunning dog. People were questioning the use os Ridgeback blood. Most of those people haven't got the first clue about the breed and it's working ability. Your previous comments demonstrate a lack of real experience. I'd of though someone that runs a GSD x would have a better idea of what different breeds can do. How many Ridgebacks or Ridgeback blooded lurchers have you worked? You seem sure about what they're capable of so I assume you've done a fair bit with them. Otherwise you're just given an opinion that you've made up with no experience. The dog was barely a year old in those photos, but I'm sure you knew that and your comment about him not being fit was just a typo. ive seen I a mate had ,but like been said on this post most of these lurchers had other breeds in there make up, so nobody can really say the r/r is making the dog better than the other breeds, and the dog in question had bull in there as well. Why not show a pic of your dog now as mature dog, rather than a young dog like in your pic then.? It was the same with my young dog at 12 months, now 18 month old he looks and moves totally different now fast,agile,strong and is a very full on young dog, what this x are supposed be like. I was reading ithink it was on here or Oz site, that they don't use r/r much in S/A ,as they use Boerboel,or Boer x greyhound over there for hunting rabbits,warthog,leopards , big dogs like smooth stags that Dan stunt use . Buck 18 month old, when next to my other dog, just bigger version , but just as agile+fast as my other dog [[/uR Quote Link to post
Ocset 91 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 That dog is now dead. He was never a running dog. He was always heavyset, but he could move along at a decent pace and keep up with what he needed to. You'd never call him racey, he was always square but he lost all of that puppy fat he has In those photos. Those are the only two photos I have of him that I can share. Quote Link to post
Ocset 91 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 My main point is, these show dogs will work and work well. Quote Link to post
mushroom 13,147 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 My main point is, these show dogs will work and work well. I agree my working pugadoodledoo is the bomb on Red stags As for Ridgebacks heavy culling would be needed to get the right type consistently imo Quote Link to post
keepdiggin 9,561 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 its always nice to see something different Quote Link to post
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