banner man 587 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 I wouldn't keep a dog if it cudnt run both countrys but that's me. When I can I test them to the limit. Cause I wana see how far up the ladder they are to see if they worth breeding. Because eventually they be found out in eng if any weakness. But that's type dog I wana put all time and effort in all money to go across the pond in front loads lads knowing that I won't be let down. thats because you hunt both countrys but if you only hunted ireland would it matter? and at the end of the day you can breed any way you want and they can still jack thats been proved time and time again, there is a lot men that believe in matching a dog on regular basis to test them to the limit, theres a lot that dosent match dogs just test them out hunting so which man is right??? the answer is there is no clear cut right or wrong its all down to the man in question what he believes, so eace man to his own but its total horse shite to say a dog has to do this or that to be good all any dog has to do is please his owner 1 Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 and out of pure curio i no every spot down here BM im hunting round here 25 years and yes there is a very good hare down here and in louth and your not wrong alot of places you go you will find mr right a few times and no dog will stop um its simple but to compare both isnt right me personally i prefer england i like to see big desert land but thats me you prefer ireland thats you,alot of men in ireland dont fancy going to the fen just in case their dog is found out plus alot of time its hard to get invited no heart no lungs=brakes lol you might be hunting 25 years but how long are you hare hunting? and when was your first trip to england? makattack there has been a lot of these top dogs found out in louth they didnt put on the brakes but they didnt have the speed to control a hare thats a fact. so in my opinion if the dog not good enough for ireland than theres no point it being good in england onless your living there, bottom line is you If your need a dog for where your hunting simple as that.In that case your limiting yourself to where you can run your dog.A hare dog should be able to hunt any where a hare is.iceman your compleatly missing the point theres heaps of lads in ireland that have never been to england and they not intrested in going so what does it matter if there dog can do it in england or not?? and the truth be known some of these dogs could be flyers in england but as i say i dosent matter because they wont be goingNot missing the point under stand what your saying but it seems your limiting your dog just to Ireland. Am like you never run in England but l will one day because l would like to see what my dogs have right in front off me because let's be honest anything can be going on the other side off that hedge. A hare has to many places to hide and get away over here. In england a few go to ground but most off the time its just animal on animal we may aswell all move to england lol our dogs no good to us in ireland ffs lads will ye shake yer heads if the dog doing the job where you hunt thats all that matters and if some day you decide to go to england and your dogs cant do it so what??? try get 1 that will suit eng simple as thatNo one saying that we all should move to England to test are dogs.l say it again every land brings a different test.But l rather know that if l get a call for a hunt that l can go out back and have dogs that can do it on the land l will be running that day. 1 Link to post
banner man 587 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 i no every spot down here BM im hunting round here 25 years and yes there is a very good hare down here and in louth and your not wrong alot of places you go you will find mr right a few times and no dog will stop um its simple but to compare both isnt right me personally i prefer england i like to see big desert land but thats me you prefer ireland thats you,alot of men in ireland dont fancy going to the fen just in case their dog is found out plus alot of time its hard to get invited no heart no lungs=brakes lol you might be hunting 25 years but how long are you hare hunting? and when was your first trip to england? makattack there has been a lot of these top dogs found out in louth they didnt put on the brakes but they didnt have the speed to control a hare thats a fact. so in my opinion if the dog not good enough for ireland than theres no point it being good in england onless your living there, bottom line is you need a dog for where your hunting simple as that. 25 years at everything ive been to england simple wether it was this year or 10 years ago i was still there and will go everytime i get an invite its hard for a dog to control those hares in louth coz the land is small ya you need a dog for where your hunting thats a very good point so i need one for ireland and england but once your happy hunting small land in ireland and your dog pleases you thats all that matters,BM have you seen all these top dogs getting found out or is it just tales been told round a table? believe what you want makattack regardless what i say or any 1 ealse your going to have your own view, but there not tall tales, and to be honest if a dog cant control a hare in louth in that big land he needs shooting but again thats just my opinion didnt you say it takes a good dog to kill one in louth so if the hares are that good and a dog cant control um it needs shootin?just a question BM id rather see it with my own eyes and not listen to tales jmho and the land in louth isnt big imho good hares up there tho well didnt you put up a post a few months back saying your bitch missed 3/3 round louth?did you shoot her?of course you didnt coz she kills lots for you in different places imo you shouldnt compare england to ireland coz you havnt ran england no makattack the first time i went up i got 2 good runs the hares wer well controled plenty action but they werent killed, second time i went up in january she killed 2/3 and ran the 3rd 1 very well thats all facts, and you say the land in louth small ffs i must need glasses Link to post
mucky paws 495 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 the boys saying you have agood bitch there must not be many hares left around galway so lol.anyway ever ya want to see my dogs give me shout atb mp 1 Link to post
gorger 977 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Of course a dog only has to please its owner but here my Q how many men will run there dog in front of anybody on any land. I will I go any where any land in eng or ire I've proved that year after year. But each to there own. I'm not knocking anyone or any good I always gve credit and respect to any man that puts himself out. 3 Link to post
mucky paws 495 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 iceman is on fire tonight lol 3 Link to post
makattack 133 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 i no every spot down here BM im hunting round here 25 years and yes there is a very good hare down here and in louth and your not wrong alot of places you go you will find mr right a few times and no dog will stop um its simple but to compare both isnt right me personally i prefer england i like to see big desert land but thats me you prefer ireland thats you,alot of men in ireland dont fancy going to the fen just in case their dog is found out plus alot of time its hard to get invited no heart no lungs=brakes lol you might be hunting 25 years but how long are you hare hunting? and when was your first trip to england? makattack there has been a lot of these top dogs found out in louth they didnt put on the brakes but they didnt have the speed to control a hare thats a fact. so in my opinion if the dog not good enough for ireland than theres no point it being good in england onless your living there, bottom line is you need a dog for where your hunting simple as that. 25 years at everything ive been to england simple wether it was this year or 10 years ago i was still there and will go everytime i get an invite its hard for a dog to control those hares in louth coz the land is small ya you need a dog for where your hunting thats a very good point so i need one for ireland and england but once your happy hunting small land in ireland and your dog pleases you thats all that matters,BM have you seen all these top dogs getting found out or is it just tales been told round a table? believe what you want makattack regardless what i say or any 1 ealse your going to have your own view, but there not tall tales, and to be honest if a dog cant control a hare in louth in that big land he needs shooting but again thats just my opinion didnt you say it takes a good dog to kill one in louth so if the hares are that good and a dog cant control um it needs shootin?just a question BM id rather see it with my own eyes and not listen to tales jmho and the land in louth isnt big imho good hares up there tho well didnt you put up a post a few months back saying your bitch missed 3/3 round louth?did you shoot her?of course you didnt coz she kills lots for you in different places imo you shouldnt compare england to ireland coz you havnt ran england no makattack the first time i went up i got 2 good runs the hares wer well controled plenty action but they werent killed, second time i went up in january she killed 2/3 and ran the 3rd 1 very well thats all facts, and you say the land in louth small ffs i must need glasses got my info wrong BM bet you were a happy man when she did 2/3?its small compared to the fen and cork Link to post
nans pat 2,575 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 and out of pure curio i no every spot down here BM im hunting round here 25 years and yes there is a very good hare down here and in louth and your not wrong alot of places you go you will find mr right a few times and no dog will stop um its simple but to compare both isnt right me personally i prefer england i like to see big desert land but thats me you prefer ireland thats you,alot of men in ireland dont fancy going to the fen just in case their dog is found out plus alot of time its hard to get invited no heart no lungs=brakes lolyou might be hunting 25 years but how long are you hare hunting? and when was your first trip to england? makattack there has been a lot of these top dogs found out in louth they didnt put on the brakes but they didnt have the speed to control a hare thats a fact. so in my opinion if the dog not good enough for ireland than theres no point it being good in england onless your living there, bottom line is you If your need a dog for where your hunting simple as that.In that case your limiting yourself to where you can run your dog.A hare dog should be able to hunt any where a hare is.iceman your compleatly missing the point theres heaps of lads in ireland that have never been to england and they not intrested in going so what does it matter if there dog can do it in england or not?? and the truth be known some of these dogs could be flyers in england but as i say i dosent matter because they wont be goingNot missing the point under stand what your saying but it seems your limiting your dog just to Ireland. Am like you never run in England but l will one day because l would like to see what my dogs have right in front off me because let's be honest anything can be going on the other side off that hedge. A hare has to many places to hide and get away over here. In england a few go to ground but most off the time its just animal on animalwe may aswell all move to england lol our dogs no good to us in ireland ffs lads will ye shake yer heads if the dog doing the job where you hunt thats all that matters and if some day you decide to go to england and your dogs cant do it so what??? try get 1 that will suit eng simple as thatNo one saying that we all should move to England to test are dogs.l say it again every land brings a different test.But l rather know that if l get a call for a hunt that l can go out back and have dogs that can do it on the land l will be running that day. have you run your pup yet on that good land at SLEMISH. Link to post
louth tiger 1,259 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 lads you have to lisen to makk he no his stuff 2 Link to post
banner man 587 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Of course a dog only has to please its owner but here my Q how many men will run there dog in front of anybody on any land. I will I go any where any land in eng or ire I've proved that year after year. But each to there own. I'm not knocking anyone or any good I always gve credit and respect to any man that puts himself out. the boys saying you have agood bitch there must not be many hares left around galway so lol.anyway ever ya want to see my dogs give me shout atb mp ya mucky paws they almost wiped out lol only havin the craic she only average, no intrest in seeing your dogs go if you happy with them thats all that matters but we def arrange a days hunting next winter and we have a good days sport atb 2 Link to post
mucky paws 495 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 listen lads be honest when ye look at dvds of dogs running on the fens don't betelling me ye have never tought id love to be there instead of nearly breaking your f***ing neck over walls and fences and hedges to see a race in Ireland,wheres on the fens you can take out a cigerate have a smoke and hope your dogs lungs are a lot better then yours come on be honest now 4 Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 and out of pure curio i no every spot down here BM im hunting round here 25 years and yes there is a very good hare down here and in louth and your not wrong alot of places you go you will find mr right a few times and no dog will stop um its simple but to compare both isnt right me personally i prefer england i like to see big desert land but thats me you prefer ireland thats you,alot of men in ireland dont fancy going to the fen just in case their dog is found out plus alot of time its hard to get invited no heart no lungs=brakes lol you might be hunting 25 years but how long are you hare hunting? and when was your first trip to england? makattack there has been a lot of these top dogs found out in louth they didnt put on the brakes but they didnt have the speed to control a hare thats a fact. so in my opinion if the dog not good enough for ireland than theres no point it being good in england onless your living there, bottom line is you If your need a dog for where your hunting simple as that.In that case your limiting yourself to where you can run your dog.A hare dog should be able to hunt any where a hare is.iceman your compleatly missing the point theres heaps of lads in ireland that have never been to england and they not intrested in going so what does it matter if there dog can do it in england or not?? and the truth be known some of these dogs could be flyers in england but as i say i dosent matter because they wont be goingNot missing the point under stand what your saying but it seems your limiting your dog just to Ireland. Am like you never run in England but l will one day because l would like to see what my dogs have right in front off me because let's be honest anything can be going on the other side off that hedge. A hare has to many places to hide and get away over here. In england a few go to ground but most off the time its just animal on animalwe may aswell all move to england lol our dogs no good to us in ireland ffs lads will ye shake yer heads if the dog doing the job where you hunt thats all that matters and if some day you decide to go to england and your dogs cant do it so what??? try get 1 that will suit eng simple as thatNo one saying that we all should move to England to test are dogs.l say it again every land brings a different test.But l rather know that if l get a call for a hunt that l can go out back and have dogs that can do it on the land l will be running that day. have you run your pup yet on that good land at SLEMISH. Go out round there few times and think l only came back once with out a kill semlish hares are no good there like ninjas just try and hide.Once there out in open there dead. Link to post
banner man 587 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 Of course a dog only has to please its owner but here my Q how many men will run there dog in front of anybody on any land. I will I go any where any land in eng or ire I've proved that year after year. But each to there own. I'm not knocking anyone or any good I always gve credit and respect to any man that puts himself out. fair play to you john thats what your into go for it, iv showed my bitch to a lot of men in ireland all winter, and next season il show any 1 in ireland her going on any land in ireland il slip her at a hare anywhere but as iv said loads of times iv no intrest in england, but as you say each to there own 1 Link to post
banner man 587 Posted March 28, 2014 Report Share Posted March 28, 2014 listen lads be honest when ye look at dvds of dogs running on the fens don't betelling me ye have never tought id love to be there instead of nearly breaking your f*****g neck over walls and fences and hedges to see a race in Ireland,wheres on the fens you can take out a cigerate have a smoke and hope your dogs lungs are a lot better then yours come on be honest now see lads this is where most lads are missing the point of course we would all love to have the fens on our doorstep theres no disputing that but some of us have no intrest in travelling that far for hunting then again some are prepared to travel that far its down to each indivulal person themselfs, theres no set pattern for anyone, and as i keep saying all a dog has to do is please its owner weather its ran in eng or ire or anywhere for that matter 1 Link to post
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