rossthedog 76 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Working terriers are IMHO on the decline and by persevering with slow starters all you are doing is aiding that decline 1 Quote Link to post
Pedwar 320 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Working terriers are IMHO on the decline and by persevering with slow starters all you are doing is aiding that decline But some of the best working terriers I ever seen were (so called) late starters 1 Quote Link to post
Alimac2 321 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Working terriers are IMHO on the decline and by persevering with slow starters all you are doing is aiding that decline That's a cracker that is pal, lol Quote Link to post
Alimac2 321 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Iv had a fair few dogs that have started later than I'd hoped, & like wise had dogs that have started what I'd call earlie.If I take on a pup, I accept that there's going to be variations on when & how pups starts, for me that's a great part of it, watching young dogs start & learn the trade, wether what I see pleases me or not. Digging to a true digging dog that knows its game, is boring in comparrison to the highs & lows of bringing on a young un.Folk expecting pups to graft away a few months after they've lost there puppy teeth are simply numb as feck, no respect nor idea.For the lads saying dogs that have started late cant reach there full potential, how does that work?? You've no idea what standards a dog will reach, wether it starts earlie or late, you can only hope the breeding you've picked, turns out well. One things for sure, there ain't no guarantees in this game..if the question " dogs that has started late cannot reach their full potential how does that work ? " is aimed at what I said allow me to explain. I never said a dog that is started late cannot reach it full potential I said a older dog that through inactivity will not reach its potential. An example I've a mate that's got a cracking dog that you could count on for a dig but through my mate having work commitments the dog hasn't been grafted this year . Now for me the dog hasn't reached its full potential ! If the question wasn't aimed at me I apologize for the long post . :-) I can't remember who I was quoting, maybe it was you, maybe I misred it if it was your post & it's doesn't concern me enough to look back ;-) its all just opinions & discussion. Atb Ali Quote Link to post
rossthedog 76 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Working terriers are IMHO on the decline and by persevering with slow starters all you are doing is aiding that decline But some of the best working terriers I ever seen were (so called) late starters would you breed from these late starters? 1 Quote Link to post
rossthedog 76 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Working terriers are IMHO on the decline and by persevering with slow starters all you are doing is aiding that declineThat's a cracker that is pal, lol How long a wait is to long ? Quote Link to post
fireman 10,861 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Working terriers are IMHO on the decline and by persevering with slow starters all you are doing is aiding that declineThat's a cracker that is pal, lol How long a wait is to long ? You should know if it's worth the wait if you've had the dog from a pup,you should be able to read the signs of has it or hasn't it got what it takes,my russell bitch has taken a little while to switch on but i could tell she was worth waiting for and she's now 2 years old.A few like yourself would have given her up at 18 month old as she wouldn't be rushed to ground as such and even now you need to let her have her sniff around and let her drop in when she's ready,take her to a hole on a lead and ask her to go straight in and she won't,she just needs her own time and this winter has seen her turn from a very youthfull even imature into a mature bitch that stays till dug.Well worth the wait in my book but i did know all would be fine and some you just can't tell,luck of the draw or a good read of the dog in question?. . Quote Link to post
rossthedog 76 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 You should know if it's worth the wait if you've had the dog from a pup,you should be able to read the signs of has it or hasn't it got what it takes,my russell bitch has taken a little while to switch on but i could tell she was worth waiting for and she's now 2 years old.A few like yourself would have given her up at 18 month old as she wouldn't be rushed to ground as such and even now you need to let her have her sniff around and let her drop in when she's ready,take her to a hole on a lead and ask her to go straight in and she won't,she just needs her own time and this winter has seen her turn from a very youthfull even imature into a mature bitch that stays till dug.Well worth the wait in my book but i did know all would be fine and some you just can't tell,luck of the draw or a good read of the dog in question?. . None of mine will enter straight off lead into 1st hole either they all like a sniff about .Ive given dogs time in the past and sorry to say they are never as good as there confident early entering kennel mates ,early entering dogs do need care and patience as well. Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Working terriers are IMHO on the decline and by persevering with slow starters all you are doing is aiding that decline. May be yours are bud mine aint Quote Link to post
rossthedog 76 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) Pmsl Edited March 5, 2014 by rossthedog Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Bow down before gone to earth, no more need to comment now.. Lol. You made the comment. Working terrierd are in decline. And preserving slow starters is aiding it. Back it Up then. Rossthedog Quote Link to post
block end 242 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Must be some cracking terriers out there !!!Plenty about mate plenty of shit to just some people's standards are higher than others probablyYour right mate just i see some in a rush to enter may be am wrong but i wont loose know sleep over it lolno ones wrong mate just people got different views what's right and what's wrong that all mate Quote Link to post
block end 242 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Working terriers are IMHO on the decline and by persevering with slow starters all you are doing is aiding that declineThat's a cracker that is pal, lol How long a wait is to long ? once reach8 good chance he aint going to go lol 1 Quote Link to post
rossthedog 76 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Bow down before gone to earth, no more need to comment now.. Lol. You made the comment. Working terrierd are in decline. And preserving slow starters is aiding it. Back it Up then. Rossthedog Back it up ,its a internet forum there's no way of prooving what I've experienced that's why these type of sites are a haven for waisters dreamer liears and even antis lol you just have to weigh up what you read disregard or give attention to what you want its all piss and wind . 1 Quote Link to post
Waz 4,252 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Plan on taking a litter from a late starter. Dog I plan on using was in and at em young enough, fingers crossed the planned pups dont take as long as the mother to switch on. Will try and get them going on smaller stuff, ratting etc, even if I have to breed the rats (not much ratting round here). Quote Link to post
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