MIK 4,763 Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 the fly line has nothing to do with how you play the fish and landing a 15lb fish on 6lb leader says more about the fish than anything else and I stand by what I say they cheap lines don't cut it ...not for me any way .... Quote Link to post
MIK 4,763 Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I disagree with you tiercel regarding WF.lines .......I use a 6 ft braided leader cut off the loop on the thick end whip that to the fly line and very rarely use less that 9-10ft fluorocarbon leader and even with the smallest of 18 drys it will turn over and present as good as any dt line 1 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I disagree with you tiercel regarding WF.lines .......I use a 6 ft braided leader cut off the loop on the thick end whip that to the fly line and very rarely use less that 9-10ft fluorocarbon leader and even with the smallest of 18 drys it will turn over and present as good as any dt line To me that says more about your casting skills that the WF line. TC 1 Quote Link to post
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 the fly line has nothing to do with how you play the fish and landing a 15lb fish on 6lb leader says more about the fish than anything else and I stand by what I say they cheap lines don't cut it ...not for me any way ....what does it say about the fish? It says more about the angler playing the fish to me, this fish didn't jump onto the bank and give up, it stripped my reel 7 times halfway through the backing, my big rod is a 9 ft 6. Diawa whisker which I use for salmon too. It's how you play the fish that gets it too the bank or not Quote Link to post
esoxluscious 44 Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Ok thanks lads, guy in work suggested a double taper for better presentation, and that he personally used the brand scientific angler? however these were getting harder to get as everything is now going weight forward! ill b mostly fishing stocked lakes and I wont b casting great distances but I now have an excuse to buy a new rod when ive got my presentation right and cant reach those rising fish! Quote Link to post
esoxluscious 44 Posted March 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Ok thanks lads, guy in work suggested a double taper for better presentation, and that he personally used the brand scientific angler? however these were getting harder to get as everything is now going weight forward! ill b mostly fishing stocked lakes and I wont b casting great distances but I now have an excuse to buy a new rod when ive got my presentation right and cant reach those rising fish! Quote Link to post
MIK 4,763 Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 BGWM I don't fish the ponds as much as I used to but when I do I only enjoy fishing dries and never go above 6lb if theres a good ripple but mostly fish 4lb floro as I fish very small stuff ...I have lost count how many double figure stockies I have landed over the years on this light tackle ..the reasons I fish light is imo your leader presentation is very important you can match the hatch perfectly but if the fish see your leader they wont strike ....the fun factor in using light tackle ...and the type of fish meaning that you can get away with light tackle on ponds as the fish allow this granted there is a bit of skill but I will put it another way ...you say you fish for salmon would you use 6lb leader if you thought you were going to catch a 15.1lb salmon ?....I never go smaller than 12lb when salmon fishing but if im on the Tay I go up to 25lb and that's why I said its more to do with the fish Quote Link to post
BIG G wheton machine 1,594 Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) I use 8lb for salmon on my leader and for my hook length below the swivel when prawning or worm and been successful many times. But I do know what you mean by using heavier lines for salmon but is that not because it's fast boulder laden rivers? That get snagged up more on. A ten pound fish isn't going to snap a rod or line if the drag system is set properly, it will if you try and pick it up out of the water so it shows the pressure a fish puts on isn't the same as the test curve or breaking strain whilst under water, I fish the moy and mourne for salmon, plenty of monsters in them aswel , but I mostly fish my brook type river for brown and sea trout which there are sea trout well into double figures in it, I'd use 4 lb drennan leader Edited March 6, 2014 by BIG G wheton machine Quote Link to post
lurchers4life 103 Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I have been using the airflo sithsence lines for the last year or two and I think there on par with the cortland 444s I wouldnt use anything but them For still water pounds I use the cortland 444 ice blue and the 444 camo unless there there over 10ft deep and you need to get down in seconds you wont need anything else resovoir fishing I could go on for days different lines for different drifts then Quote Link to post
lurchers4life 103 Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 And a fly line dosnt preseant the fly the caster produces the fly Quote Link to post
MIK 4,763 Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 so if the caster presents the fly to which I agree what would make a better presentation a cheap fly line or a more expensive line?....its like anything better golf clubs will make a golfer play a better shot but its his swing that is important .... Quote Link to post
lurchers4life 103 Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Thats like me saying im crap with these clubs give me that 400 quid wood and il hit the green everytime it doesnt work like that the cast preseants the fly the cast starts from the person holding it Quote Link to post
MIK 4,763 Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 no what im saying its like anything you will be better at something if you use better equipment 1 Quote Link to post
lurchers4life 103 Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 Wel course you would the cheaper the lines the heavier they get Quote Link to post
esoxluscious 44 Posted March 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 no what im saying its like anything you will be better at something if you use better equipment have to agree with this, in all fishing principles, i know im pretty shit at fly fishing due to lack of practice however why make the learning process harder with sub standard equipment? Quote Link to post
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