Goverment Taking The Piss Again

[Bazil brush 474]

Why don't they just keep there noses out of the countryside where its not wanted!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2571214/Shoo-shoot-jail-warning-farmers-hit-crows-new-plans-labelled-ludicrous-countryside-groups.html

[scothunter 12,609]

Agreed but keep watching,the goverment are about to get thier noses well and trully snubbed,for sticking thier noses in the ruskies business lol

[yellowdog 12]

It gets worse than that, they want to allow the addling of mallard eggs on the open GL. (obviously they have been granting too many special licences for this) remember the Mallard is a declining national and international species, now we know the reason if council workers have been protecting the townie hoard from getting duck poop on their nice clean pink Nike trainers when out jogging! Greylag also are a proposal to add the the GL. Meanwhile Wildfowling clubs have just spent the last 50 years trying to re-establish a UK breeding stock, Geese live a long time and have to be fully mature before raising their own young and are very vunerable to shooting during the molt or when nesting or even over shooting in season. Allowing all and sundry to have a go during the off season could be a disaster (this UK stock was previously reduced to almost nil in the days of the early muzzle loader)

I do tend to agree that the GL has been abused for sport by some, Woodpigeon roosting and nesting thirty miles from a crop are hard to justify. Though is trailing non lythal means and trapping effective? If you release a crow into another area the resident crows will kill it and even if you could kill after capture will one catch in a Larsen prove it works and stop shooting on that ground? This sort of thing only shows their lack of hands on knowledge and we all know what crazy legislation has been forced onto us in the past through this!

What this shows is a real need to stand shoulder to shoulder, trust me some in English nature are very much lacking in real knowledge. I came across one senior person who was new to the job from Uni and was totally unaware that migratory wildfowl were being shot in season around the UK within the law and had been for hundreds of years, while in other areas the clubs are their biggest asset in conservation work and "box ticking".

 

Stand up and fight these three issues non lythal control 1. Actual trials of non lythal 2. ruining mallard eggs (on the reasons stated they are in decline) 3. out of season greylags (local special GL has previously been granted on the Egyptian goose in the past so and also on the greylag in the Scottish islands)

 

Go to the NE website and place your thoughts just put no-comment or similar on the stuff that doesn't effect us but please comment on these 3 issues

[J Darcy 5,871]

It gets worse than that, they want to allow the addling of mallard eggs on the open GL. (obviously they have been granting too many special licences for this) remember the Mallard is a declining national and international species, now we know the reason if council workers have been protecting the townie hoard from getting duck poop on their nice clean pink Nike trainers when out jogging! Greylag also are a proposal to add the the GL. Meanwhile Wildfowling clubs have just spent the last 50 years trying to re-establish a UK breeding stock, Geese live a long time and have to be fully mature before raising their own young and are very vunerable to shooting during the molt or when nesting or even over shooting in season. Allowing all and sundry to have a go during the off season could be a disaster (this UK stock was previously reduced to almost nil in the days of the early muzzle loader)

I do tend to agree that the GL has been abused for sport by some, Woodpigeon roosting and nesting thirty miles from a crop are hard to justify. Though is trailing non lythal means and trapping effective? If you release a crow into another area the resident crows will kill it and even if you could kill after capture will one catch in a Larsen prove it works and stop shooting on that ground? This sort of thing only shows their lack of hands on knowledge and we all know what crazy legislation has been forced onto us in the past through this!

What this shows is a real need to stand shoulder to shoulder, trust me some in English nature are very much lacking in real knowledge. I came across one senior person who was new to the job from Uni and was totally unaware that migratory wildfowl were being shot in season around the UK within the law and had been for hundreds of years, while in other areas the clubs are their biggest asset in conservation work and "box ticking".

 

Stand up and fight these three issues non lythal control 1. Actual trials of non lythal 2. ruining mallard eggs (on the reasons stated they are in decline) 3. out of season greylags (local special GL has previously been granted on the Egyptian goose in the past so and also on the greylag in the Scottish islands)

 

Go to the NE website and place your thoughts just put no-comment or similar on the stuff that doesn't effect us but please comment on these 3 issues

Who on earth has told you mallards are in decline. There's never been so many, and that goes for Greylag's too.

The fact is that Mallards do need to be put on GL, they are everywhere and do not do the ecosystem any favours at all.

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

Quack!

 

[paulus 26]

Quack!

 

amber, ffs where have these people been looking. last week i counted over 70 between 2 canal bridges a distance of no more than half a mile

[Malt 379]

No shortage of them round here on the rivers, ponds and estuaries either..

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

 

Quack!

 

amber, ffs where have these people been looking.

 

Err ..... At the entire length and breadth of the British Isles, mate.

 

You, or I might glance out our window and get a snap shot of what we Think is going on out there ~ like my own, famous 'six or seven great tits'

 

But, the BTO employs a vast network of dedicated observers, right across the land, who specifically go out and head count every single specimen and send in their official reports, to be number crunched by specialist scientists at HQ.

 

That's what they do. It's what I do. It's why I ring birds. I also head count and report their presence. Times that by the millions of us doing it and, if ye'll forgive me for saying;

 

I'd Think the BTO has a rather better grasp of the bigger picture that you or I

[paulus 26]

 

 

Quack!

 

amber, ffs where have these people been looking.

 

Err ..... At the entire length and breadth of the British Isles, mate.

 

You, or I might glance out our window and get a snap shot of what we Think is going on out there ~ like my own, famous 'six or seven great tits'

 

But, the BTO employs a vast network of dedicated observers, right across the land, who specifically go out and head count every single specimen and send in their official reports, to be number crunched by specialist scientists at HQ.

 

That's what they do. It's what I do. It's why I ring birds. I also head count and report their presence. Times that by the millions of us doing it and, if ye'll forgive me for saying;

 

I'd Think the BTO has a rather better grasp of the bigger picture that you or I

 

not round here they don't and try telling the people of Swindon that starlings are endangered

[danw 1,748]

interesting that mallard are amber yet good old Buteo Buteo is green and of no concern in the UK.

[paulus 26]

interesting that mallard are amber yet good old Buteo Buteo is green and of no concern in the UK.

anything with a hook is virtually untouchable look how long it took to deport one fooker

[paulus 26]

for those that can not find one

[Malt 379]

 

 

 

Quack!

 

amber, ffs where have these people been looking.

Err ..... At the entire length and breadth of the British Isles, mate.

 

You, or I might glance out our window and get a snap shot of what we Think is going on out there ~ like my own, famous 'six or seven great tits'

 

But, the BTO employs a vast network of dedicated observers, right across the land, who specifically go out and head count every single specimen and send in their official reports, to be number crunched by specialist scientists at HQ.

 

That's what they do. It's what I do. It's why I ring birds. I also head count and report their presence. Times that by the millions of us doing it and, if ye'll forgive me for saying;

 

I'd Think the BTO has a rather better grasp of the bigger picture that you or I

not round here they don't and try telling the people of Swindon that starlings are endangered

People kept telling me on here how starlings were virtually extinct when I was seeing thousands of the noisy little b*****ds every day out my windows!

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

 

Quack!

amber, ffs where have these people been looking.

Err ..... At the entire length and breadth of the British Isles, mate.

 

You, or I might glance out our window and get a snap shot of what we Think is going on out there ~ like my own, famous 'six or seven great tits'

 

But, the BTO employs a vast network of dedicated observers, right across the land, who specifically go out and head count every single specimen and send in their official reports, to be number crunched by specialist scientists at HQ.

 

That's what they do. It's what I do. It's why I ring birds. I also head count and report their presence. Times that by the millions of us doing it and, if ye'll forgive me for saying;

 

I'd Think the BTO has a rather better grasp of the bigger picture that you or I

not round here they don't and try telling the people of Swindon that starlings are endangered

People kept telling me on here how starlings were virtually extinct when I was seeing thousands of the noisy little b*****ds every day out my windows!

 

we get a few of them murmur thingy`s here, there was a huge one in Swindon the other day, everyone was moaning about the shite everywhere

[Malt 379]

I can't put any seed out when they're in residence, nothing else gets a look in.. The free range chicken farm down the road looses thousands of pounds worth of feed to them. They've got a licence to control them.