Rimfire Ammunition

[shropshire dan 467]

Yeah I applied for a .223 or .22-250 and was declined due to lack of experiance. Didn't really want a HMR to be honest but I put it down in case I was declined for CF. FEO said I can have the CF after a 1000 rimfire rounds or after 6 months. So I'm putting in for a variation in a few weeks for a .243

I understand the hmr isn't an ideal foxing round but at the moment I have no choice. I'm going to be keeping ranges to 120yard max providing I'm consistant enough of course

 

People do say that a .22lr sub upto 60 yards is powerful enough at under 70ftlb striking power.

Where a HMR is still pushing 70ftlb at 200 yards. Confused.com

 

+ on the Hornady ballistics calculator the .22WMR is in fact less powerfull than the HMR at 100 yards and a lot slower.

Edited March 2, 2014 by shropshire dan

[paulus 26]

Yeah I applied for a .223 or .22-250 and was declined due to lack of experiance. Didn't really want a HMR to be honest but I put it down in case I was declined for CF. FEO said I can have the CF after a 1000 rimfire rounds or after 6 months. So I'm putting in for a variation in a few weeks for a .243

I understand the hmr isn't an ideal foxing round but at the moment I have no choice. I'm going to be keeping ranges to 120yard max providing I'm consistant enough of course

 

People do say that a .22lr sub upto 60 yards is powerful enough at under 70ftlb striking power.

Where a HMR is still pushing 70ftlb at 200 yards. Confused.com

 

+ on the Hornady ballistics calculator the .22WMR is in fact less powerfull than the HMR at 100 yards and a lot slower.

bullet weight

[shropshire dan 467]

But at that power output and speed will 13g make a difference?

 

Atb

Dan

[yellowdog 12]

But at that power output and speed will 13g make a difference?

 

Atb

Dan

 

If you get hit by a brick thown at you might it hurt more than a pebble? That's kinetic energy! .22 WMR is "off memory" 340 ft lb an hmr 240 ft lb and a .22 lr with some ammo can reach between 160- 190 ft lb (hyper velocity). In all honesty I feel your wasting your money and I should wait that six months using you .22 or a shotgun at suitable ranges.

.243 win is a lot of gun if you are not going out for deer with the same gun BTW and tends to kick up a fuss with the FEO with a newbie, you will also have more issues finding cleared land if your on a closed cert.

[paulus 26]

But at that power output and speed will 13g make a difference?

 

Atb

Dan

when that weight is roughly a 75% increase i would like to think so

[shropshire dan 467]

I suppose it will make a preety big difference. Was going to go for a .223 but plan on deer stalking in the future so gonna go for the .243

[paulus 26]

I suppose it will make a preety big difference. Was going to go for a .223 but plan on deer stalking in the future so gonna go for the .243

in my view the 243 is the best all around calibre available

[shropshire dan 467]

I'm not planning on doing a lot of deer stalking but will be doing a lot of foxing. So wanted something for both. Is the .243 considered a lot better than a .223 for fox control?

 

Thanks

Atb

Dan

[yellowdog 12]

I'm not planning on doing a lot of deer stalking but will be doing a lot of foxing. So wanted something for both. Is the .243 considered a lot better than a .223 for fox control?

 

Thanks

Atb

Dan

 

There is actually no best in foxing calibres I own and use a .243 win and a .22 hornet, different needs, different reason, different days, different venues and one is about the minimum one about the maximum. Perhaps the best all round fox gun is the .223 rem due to the fact that few can shoot reliably past its effective range. Fact is you cant kill them double dead or scare them to death with a big bang and a near miss. If your on a closed cert you might loose permissions waiting for clearances as most areas were deer are not or have not been shot tend to be classified as 22 cf by the cops on previous land inspections

 

.22 Hornet is way better than HMR by the way on bunnies by the way and can be re-loaded for about similar costs to a HMR costs to feed factory and I feel moderates better. It is not able to make into a small deer legal gun though topping out at around 700 ft/lb with a 45 grn bullet

[shropshire dan 467]

Cheers for the info. I may just stick to my original .223. See what the feo says