gamerooster 1,179 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 tempted to try and hatch a few grey partridge under broodies, as its a shame that something that was once so common is now rare.... but my question is, is there a market in them for shoouts buying the poults? 1 Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 (edited) We have been releasing a small number of English for the past 3 years in preference to Frenchmen. Can't remember where the keeper buys them from. I read an article last week about wild breeding rates of released conventionally reared English and it made for grim reading, something like 1/1000 succesfully rear young. This is greatly improved with more natural game farm rearing practices. Edited February 28, 2014 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post
gamerooster 1,179 Posted February 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 was watching a short documentary on youtube where they were releasing them for falcons, rearing them under broody hens Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 I did a job on one of the biggest grey partridge shoots in the country a few weeks ago and they have a 75% successes rate in wild rearing greys .... Mind you there are more traps snares and willing shooters on that place than you would find on any estate ...... Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 I did a job on one of the biggest grey partridge shoots in the country a few weeks ago and they have a 75% successes rate in wild rearing greys .... Mind you there are more traps snares and willing shooters on that place than you would find on any estate ...... Properly managed land with serious predator control can do wonders for the English. They're a wonderful little bird. I enjoy knocking a few down each season with the gun but I also get a great deal of pleasure seeing them about in the summer months too. Beautiful little bird! Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 The English grouse. . . Lovely little bird. 1 Quote Link to post
micky 3,325 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 was it not mixi and the decline of the rabbits that done for them Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 Pesticides mate Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 We have been releasing a small number of English for the past 3 years in preference to Frenchmen. Can't remember where the keeper buys them from. I read an article last week about wild breeding rates of released conventionally reared English and it made for grim reading, something like 1/1000 succesfully rear young. This is greatly improved with more natural game farm rearing practices. I'd be real interested in finding out what your returns are after 5 years mate are. My grandad was a firm believer in a 5 year plan when trying to get a good stock of greys on the place. Couple of barren pairs on the place should take young poults on no bother. There a great wee bird....not so easy as the red leg to rear, pecking b*****ds. Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 We have been releasing a small number of English for the past 3 years in preference to Frenchmen. Can't remember where the keeper buys them from. I read an article last week about wild breeding rates of released conventionally reared English and it made for grim reading, something like 1/1000 succesfully rear young. This is greatly improved with more natural game farm rearing practices. I'd be real interested in finding out what your returns are after 5 years mate are. My grandad was a firm believer in a 5 year plan when trying to get a good stock of greys on the place. Couple of barren pairs on the place should take young poults on no bother. There a great wee bird....not so easy as the red leg to rear, pecking b*****ds. Yeah, it will be interesting to see how it develops if the keeper sticks to the English as he is doing. We already had a reasonable population of English about, not huge numbers but reasonable. We were doing so shit on the released Frenchys that a few years ago the keeper decided to try English and the return on partridge doubled so stuck with it. This season wasn't so great as they seemed to be everywhere but the covers but a fair few were shot on walk up days. It's a bit of an off the cuff theory but the idea is that releasing English gives a shootable surplus to ease the pressure on the wild stock and what's left at the end of Jan (which is a fair majority, LOL) might benefit the wild population. If not it's certainly eased shooting pressure on them. I was out on Sunday topping up a number of strategically placed feeders and sorting the larsens & Fenns etc, we'll give em the best chance we can. There ain't a squirrel or feral cat on the place now , the crows and magpies are in for a hammering shortly. Few fenns about to pick up stoats and rats and foxes are real quiet this year. That's about all a weekend warrior can do.... 1 Quote Link to post
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