Alrounder X Alrounder

[South hams hunter 8,922]

An allrounder for me just has to take everything on the lamp and be a handy ferreting dog

[nothernlite 18,089]

An allrounder for me just has to take everything on the lamp and be a handy ferreting dog

what about daytime ?

[South hams hunter 8,922]

We aint got the land for daytime down here mate so just a lamp dog suits me, pre ban pull a few fallow in the day perhaps but is to hot to do that even so lamping or ferreting really

[morton 5,368]

An allrounder grafts and produces on any land,its not rocket science really,the wannabes now want an allrounder that grafts to their lesser standards,which their mutts often do,the worst of the best are often superior allrounders to the best of the worst now.Few allrounders now are tested to their,or the owners true ability.

[J Darcy 5,871]

Can a dog be classed as an all-rounder if it doesn't work with the gun?

[DEERMAN 1,020]

Can a dog be classed as an all-rounder if it doesn't work with the gun?

It does to me ,as I have never classed a Lurcher with guns ,but hey that's just me

[Bosun11 537]

 

Can a dog be classed as an all-rounder if it doesn't work with the gun?

It does to me ,as I have never classed a Lurcher with guns ,but hey that's just me

 

Me too...

[J Darcy 5,871]

I would imagine that many of the 'poachers' dogs from the days of yore would have to have been a dab hand with the birds, especially at night.For myself, I do require a lurcher to work with the gun, both day and by night, and all the better if he will work water too. After all, the very essence of a lurcher is filling the pot.

[RossM 8,119]

My old bitch's dam lost a back leg before she was bred from, still caught rabbits with relative ease, her offspring turned out ok, SHH was it not too long ago, you had 3 seperate dogs a catch dog, a hold dog and a kill dog? Can't remember the ins and outs but it was many a user name before, what do you class as a worthy stud? Seems the tripod would've had 4 seasons to prove himself worthy which is fine, the fact it's got 3 legs now doesn't change the fact it has grafted,

[paulus 26]

I would imagine that many of the 'poachers' dogs from the days of yore would have to have been a dab hand with the birds, especially at night.For myself, I do require a lurcher to work with the gun, both day and by night, and all the better if he will work water too. After all, the very essence of a lurcher is filling the pot.

and it saves having a dog for each discipline

[bunnys 1,228]

very few travelled in the old days and these were not to far back in the lurcher all edible onthe land thy dwelt was usually classed has a allrounder .The moorhens and ducks meant the animal had to havera liking for water installed either from breeding or constant ascociation has pups.shooting may not mean the gun sling shot catty was usually the moochers tool or throwing stick.seen many a long ear took out off his stride with a stick .atb bunnys.

[fox digger 1,086]

Can a dog be classed as an all-rounder if it doesn't work with the gun?

 

with all due respect and im not saying this in a smart way but a lurcher is a running dog, if it does all the game previously mentioned and never used with a gun then imo yes, it an allrounder.

A spaniel or pointer is a gun dog....... i dont ever work any lurcher with a gun and if they did it would possible be a bonus but i use a purpose bred gun dog for gun work. a german pointer is a HPR, as are most of the continental breeds, where as the english pointer isnt HPR, retrieve isnt in its title, some do retrieve, some dont, that doesnt stop them being a gun dog........ if they retrieve its a bonus but you wouldnt buy one expecting it to retrieve, likewise i wouldnt buy or breed a running dog with the intention of using it as a gun dog.

[paulus 26]

very few travelled in the old days and these were not to far back in the lurcher all edible onthe land thy dwelt was usually classed has a allrounder .The moorhens and ducks meant the animal had to havera liking for water installed either from breeding or constant ascociation has pups.shooting may not mean the gun sling shot catty was usually the moochers tool or throwing stick.seen many a long ear took out off his stride with a stick .atb bunnys.

throwing stick now that brings back memories of me granddad

[paulus 26]

 

Can a dog be classed as an all-rounder if it doesn't work with the gun?

 

with all due respect and im not saying this in a smart way but a lurcher is a running dog, if it does all the game previously mentioned and never used with a gun then imo yes, it an allrounder.

A spaniel or pointer is a gun dog....... i dont ever work any lurcher with a gun and if they did it would possible be a bonus but i use a purpose bred gun dog for gun work. a german pointer is a HPR, as are most of the continental breeds, where as the english pointer isnt HPR, retrieve isnt in its title, some do retrieve, some dont, that doesnt stop them being a gun dog........ if they retrieve its a bonus but you wouldnt buy one expecting it to retrieve, likewise i wouldnt buy or breed a running dog with the intention of using it as a gun dog.

 

they can make a good fist of it when given the opportunity even retrieving wildfowl in water, my old dog loves nothing more than picking up in the hide late summer or roosting late winter, he will flush and find dead and pricked pheasant is handy on the beating line and bob on following a blood trail, so why restrict a dog to running when it potentially has the ability to do far,far more

[J Darcy 5,871]

 

 

Can a dog be classed as an all-rounder if it doesn't work with the gun?

 

with all due respect and im not saying this in a smart way but a lurcher is a running dog, if it does all the game previously mentioned and never used with a gun then imo yes, it an allrounder.

A spaniel or pointer is a gun dog....... i dont ever work any lurcher with a gun and if they did it would possible be a bonus but i use a purpose bred gun dog for gun work. a german pointer is a HPR, as are most of the continental breeds, where as the english pointer isnt HPR, retrieve isnt in its title, some do retrieve, some dont, that doesnt stop them being a gun dog........ if they retrieve its a bonus but you wouldnt buy one expecting it to retrieve, likewise i wouldnt buy or breed a running dog with the intention of using it as a gun dog.

 

they can make a good fist of it when given the opportunity even retrieving wildfowl in water, my old dog loves nothing more than picking up in the hide late summer or roosting late winter, he will flush and find dead and pricked pheasant is handy on the beating line and bob on following a blood trail, so why restrict a dog to running when it potentially has the ability to do far,far more

 

Exactly.....