Alrounder X Alrounder

[paulus 26]

never owned a dog that minced rabbits maybe i have never owned a dog that felt threatened enough by one to even bother to kill it though

[trigger2 3,145]

 

 

 

 

Bull X x Coursing dog in my veiw hard to beat as all-round dog

. Depends what you would class as an alrounder. As most lurcher work is rabbiting I feel that a bull x would not fall into that category unless you like your meat minced! Would have thought a collie x would suit better just mo

 

not all bull x mince rabbits .....you be surprised some of the gamest dogs bring rabbits back alive ,plus were talking about all rounder here and not rabbiter even if were talking in past tense as in pre ban....I class an all rounder as a dog that takes most game if not all not a rabbit dog

 

you asked me these 2 questions on a thread a while ago. 1. is your dog a allrounder? 2. or some things he dont do? bit of a daft question then if a dog that takes most game in your eyes is a all rounder.

 

But you never answered me ?yours aren't is it ?it jibbed on a fox like a true mal x you don't have much luck with dogs do you ?

 

:laugh: dog does all it needs to for me mate. are you talking from experience with my dog or just rumours me old pal?

[J Darcy 5,871]

In all honesty, how many lads actually do enough hunting to see if their dog's really are all rounders?

I've seen a few dogs over the years and very, very few have been all-rounders. In fact, I will go a bit further and say that there's not many dogs that get tested enough to see if they're worth any title. IMO an 'all rounder' has to be able to catch a high % of what it runs by day and by night, as well as perform other tasks. A dog's owner that won't put the miles in can never have an 'all rounder' simply because no one has access to all game species on their little patch. Just my thoughts on it. JD

[paulus 26]

In all honesty, how many lads actually do enough hunting to see if their dog's really are all rounders?

I've seen a few dogs over the years and very, very few have been all-rounders. In fact, I will go a bit further and say that there's not many dogs that get tested enough to see if they're worth any title. IMO an 'all rounder' has to be able to catch a high % of what it runs by day and by night, as well as perform other tasks. A dog's owner that won't put the miles in can never have an 'all rounder' simply because no one has access to all game species on their little patch. Just my thoughts on it. JD

but where does it end, my dogs have never seen a giraffe

[DEERMAN 1,020]

 

 

 

 

 

Bull X x Coursing dog in my veiw hard to beat as all-round dog

. Depends what you would class as an alrounder. As most lurcher work is rabbiting I feel that a bull x would not fall into that category unless you like your meat minced! Would have thought a collie x would suit better just mo

 

not all bull x mince rabbits .....you be surprised some of the gamest dogs bring rabbits back alive ,plus were talking about all rounder here and not rabbiter even if were talking in past tense as in pre ban....I class an all rounder as a dog that takes most game if not all not a rabbit dog

 

you asked me these 2 questions on a thread a while ago. 1. is your dog a allrounder? 2. or some things he dont do? bit of a daft question then if a dog that takes most game in your eyes is a all rounder.

 

But you never answered me ?yours aren't is it ?it jibbed on a fox like a true mal x you don't have much luck with dogs do you ?

 

:laugh: dog does all it needs to for me mate. are you talking from experience with my dog or just rumours me old pal

Must be rumours then :laugh: ..same as your old dog wouldn't chase anything with Antlers ,family eh

[J Darcy 5,871]

 

In all honesty, how many lads actually do enough hunting to see if their dog's really are all rounders?

I've seen a few dogs over the years and very, very few have been all-rounders. In fact, I will go a bit further and say that there's not many dogs that get tested enough to see if they're worth any title. IMO an 'all rounder' has to be able to catch a high % of what it runs by day and by night, as well as perform other tasks. A dog's owner that won't put the miles in can never have an 'all rounder' simply because no one has access to all game species on their little patch. Just my thoughts on it. JD

but where does it end, my dogs have never seen a giraffe

 

Exactly, where does it end? That's why the title 'all rounder' isn't all it's cracked up to be. If the dog hasn't been run on all available quarry in the Uk then I can't see how it can be crowned 'all rounder'. It's just so easy to bull dogs up when they've done very little. Especially so on the 'net.

[bunnys 1,228]

a saluki bull grey bred right enough ,can give thee a animal with the ability to outsrip all these creatures on these isles . how good has a allrounder well put the miles in and the stuff in front of it has the animal progresses and i think given the right animal ,they can be has good has ought else out there if not better.atb bunnys.

[trigger2 3,145]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Bull X x Coursing dog in my veiw hard to beat as all-round dog

. Depends what you would class as an alrounder. As most lurcher work is rabbiting I feel that a bull x would not fall into that category unless you like your meat minced! Would have thought a collie x would suit better just mo

 

not all bull x mince rabbits .....you be surprised some of the gamest dogs bring rabbits back alive ,plus were talking about all rounder here and not rabbiter even if were talking in past tense as in pre ban....I class an all rounder as a dog that takes most game if not all not a rabbit dog

 

you asked me these 2 questions on a thread a while ago. 1. is your dog a allrounder? 2. or some things he dont do? bit of a daft question then if a dog that takes most game in your eyes is a all rounder.

 

But you never answered me ?yours aren't is it ?it jibbed on a fox like a true mal x you don't have much luck with dogs do you ?

 

:laugh: dog does all it needs to for me mate. are you talking from experience with my dog or just rumours me old pal

Must be rumours then :laugh: ..same as your old dog wouldn't chase anything with Antlers ,family eh

 

:laugh:

[paulus 26]

 

 

In all honesty, how many lads actually do enough hunting to see if their dog's really are all rounders?

I've seen a few dogs over the years and very, very few have been all-rounders. In fact, I will go a bit further and say that there's not many dogs that get tested enough to see if they're worth any title. IMO an 'all rounder' has to be able to catch a high % of what it runs by day and by night, as well as perform other tasks. A dog's owner that won't put the miles in can never have an 'all rounder' simply because no one has access to all game species on their little patch. Just my thoughts on it. JD

but where does it end, my dogs have never seen a giraffe

 

Exactly, where does it end? That's why the title 'all rounder' isn't all it's cracked up to be. If the dog hasn't been run on all available quarry in the Uk then I can't see how it can be crowned 'all rounder'. It's just so easy to bull dogs up when they've done very little. Especially so on the 'net.

 

probably better to call them jacks of all trades, them Irish leprechauns are tricky

[bunnys 1,228]

 

 

In all honesty, how many lads actually do enough hunting to see if their dog's really are all rounders?

I've seen a few dogs over the years and very, very few have been all-rounders. In fact, I will go a bit further and say that there's not many dogs that get tested enough to see if they're worth any title. IMO an 'all rounder' has to be able to catch a high % of what it runs by day and by night, as well as perform other tasks. A dog's owner that won't put the miles in can never have an 'all rounder' simply because no one has access to all game species on their little patch. Just my thoughts on it. JD

but where does it end, my dogs have never seen a giraffe

 

Exactly, where does it end? That's why the title 'all rounder' isn't all it's cracked up to be. If the dog hasn't been run on all available quarry in the Uk then I can't see how it can be crowned 'all rounder'. It's just so easy to bull dogs up when they've done very little. Especially so on the 'net.

 

very good point ,but even those when given plenty ,and with the given capabilitys of the full spectrum . Will and do usually go on and start to favour a given species atbbunnys.

[Tiercel 6,986]

A rather ambiguous term 'All Rounder'. I used to have a rabbiting dog that would mark, bush, run on the lamp I suppose you could have called her an all round rabbiting dog. But an All Rounder she was not. When you use the term All Rounder it conjours up a picture in your mind of a dog that can do every discipline that a dog is required to do. I honestly believe that no such dog exists. Used as a prefix as in all round rabbit dog or all round ****** dog then fair enough.

 

TC

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

In all honesty, how many lads actually do enough hunting to see if their dog's really are all rounders?

I've seen a few dogs over the years and very, very few have been all-rounders. In fact, I will go a bit further and say that there's not many dogs that get tested enough to see if they're worth any title. IMO an 'all rounder' has to be able to catch a high % of what it runs by day and by night, as well as perform other tasks. A dog's owner that won't put the miles in can never have an 'all rounder' simply because no one has access to all game species on their little patch. Just my thoughts on it. JD

but where does it end, my dogs have never seen a giraffe

 

Exactly, where does it end? That's why the title 'all rounder' isn't all it's cracked up to be. If the dog hasn't been run on all available quarry in the Uk then I can't see how it can be crowned 'all rounder'. It's just so easy to bull dogs up when they've done very little. Especially so on the 'net.

 

very good point ,but even those when given plenty ,and with the given capabilitys of the full spectrum . Will and do usually go on and start to favour a given species atbbunnys.

 

strange but true, i have witnessed mine pass one species to get to another many a time, it also possible to see from the body language of the dog what its scented

[bunnys 1,228]

 

 

 

 

In all honesty, how many lads actually do enough hunting to see if their dog's really are all rounders?

I've seen a few dogs over the years and very, very few have been all-rounders. In fact, I will go a bit further and say that there's not many dogs that get tested enough to see if they're worth any title. IMO an 'all rounder' has to be able to catch a high % of what it runs by day and by night, as well as perform other tasks. A dog's owner that won't put the miles in can never have an 'all rounder' simply because no one has access to all game species on their little patch. Just my thoughts on it. JD

but where does it end, my dogs have never seen a giraffe

 

Exactly, where does it end? That's why the title 'all rounder' isn't all it's cracked up to be. If the dog hasn't been run on all available quarry in the Uk then I can't see how it can be crowned 'all rounder'. It's just so easy to bull dogs up when they've done very little. Especially so on the 'net.

 

very good point ,but even those when given plenty ,and with the given capabilitys of the full spectrum . Will and do usually go on and start to favour a given species atbbunnys.

 

strange but true, i have witnessed mine pass one species to get to another many a time, it also possible to see from the body language of the dog what its scented

 

yeah reading ones animals ,great ta see the handler connected .atb bunnys.

[fox digger 1,086]

an all round running dog in reality should be able to catch all available catchable species, pre ban an all rounder IN MY OPINION is one that could be brought out during the day and be good enough to catch a hare or two, catch bolting rabbits, run a fox if the opportunity arose, and like wise if bambi was encountered it was accounted for. if you were to bring the same dog out on the lamp it should again be able to do its rabbit, hare, fox, and deer. bushing and stuff like that are bonuses if a running dog does it, at the end of the day thats what spaniels are bred for and a running dog for running....... It is a pity the present times wont allow for such running but pre ban that would be what was expected of an all round running dog.

 

again doctors differ and patients die but that is what was the terminology around the lurcher scene local to me in the pre ban era........

[roybo 2,873]

I agree Fox digger

But I also think they need to do it regularly my bitch does all you stated except daytime hares ,but you have ferreting and a terriermans dog to add

To be an allrounder as well as other quarry