mule1943 291 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 first time ive used a light timer ,seems to be doing the trick ,never had canarys on eggs this early before Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Outlaw Pete 2,224 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 What set up ye using there, Mule? I'm looking to get an all singing, all dancing rig. Ye have tubes and bulbs. Bulbs start to brighten, gradually, before the tubes come on. Saves startling the birds with a sudden light. At evening, they do it the other way round. Bulbs coming on before the tubes go off. Then gradually dimming, after they have. Lets the birds creep off to roost naturally. How sweet is that?! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnipper 6,526 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 My first canaries had chicks on boxing day just from being in the house with a normal light bulb on and the cock bird was a current year bird. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mule1943 291 Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 What set up ye using there, Mule? I'm looking to get an all singing, all dancing rig. Ye have tubes and bulbs. Bulbs start to brighten, gradually, before the tubes come on. Saves startling the birds with a sudden light. At evening, they do it the other way round. Bulbs coming on before the tubes go off. Then gradually dimming, after they have. Lets the birds creep off to roost naturally. How sweet is that?! just got basic timer six on morning till 9 am that will do me ,bird man told me he been doing this for 30 years ,cos im a slow starter ha ha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Outlaw Pete 2,224 Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 People bred in Auschwitz ..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shamo 319 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 The best lights to have are the broad spectrum ones, like they use for Tortoises and Lizards. Just remember to increase the times on over a couple of weeks and you can use a digital timer from any hardware store or DIY place. Some extend their breeding season or some start it early, using lights and timers. Also remember to have a red Bulb on overnight, as a constant. Not everyone is in favour of using lights, due to draining their Brood stock by double and treble clutching. I think it's OK, if you single clutch and just use lights for early or late young.......not too many want late young though. The Bulbs aren't cheap, but they do pay for themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Outlaw Pete 2,224 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Shamo; As I don't intend to sell or show my birds, there's nothing in it for me to force produce them. I simply need artificial light because the room I have is a dingy hole Again, I'm sure they could survive with just the sixty watt incandescent. But, I don't want my stock to just 'survive'. Scraping by in dark misery. That's not my way. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mule1943 291 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Shamo; As I don't intend to sell or show my birds, there's nothing in it for me to force produce them. I simply need artificial light because the room I have is a dingy hole Again, I'm sure they could survive with just the sixty watt incandescent. But, I don't want my stock to just 'survive'. Scraping by in dark misery. That's not my way. same here outlawpete bird room a bit dark ,next doors conifers taken all the light Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnipper 6,526 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 People bred in Auschwitz ..... If that was aimed at my post then the bulb wasn't their only light source it just extended their day. They were by the window in my dining room. As you say though people bred in Auschwitz so crack on with your dingy hole. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shamo 319 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 If it is the case where you just need extra light, then still use the broad spectrum system it also helps them in the assimilation of vitamins. Show guys like early Birds, they are bigger specimens and better feathered for the unflighted classes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Outlaw Pete 2,224 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 That's a f**ker, Mule! You build ye f**king room. Take all things into consideration. Have if lovely ..... Then some prat plants leylandii and there's just f**k all ye can do about it. Shit! Thankfully, that can never happen here. Cunning me owns the land fronting my window! 'Mind you; That f**king great hedge is mine too! But, that's security. No one'll be able to see there's birds in the room behind it. I was in there, today. Shifting shit. Measuring shit. Writing notes and drawing diagrams. I'm trying to suss the best layout for the cages. It's not easy, for me, as I simply lack any experience to base my judgements on. How many young canaries would you put in a five foot long, nineteen inch square flight, please? That's an issue I could use some opinions on Shamo; Yeah. I just recently read about why the show breeders like to get their birds breeding, the earlier the better. All makes perfect sense too. Crafty sods; I s'pose they'll stop at nothing to get the edge on their rivals! F**k! D'you know what? I was looking at a fantastic set up, just today. Guy had more f**king lights ..... Ah! Found it! How's This for f**king Light?! He must, surely, work for a lighting firm? Personally? I intend to go with a couple hung down between my face to face blocks of cages. Gnipper; Yeah. What ever ..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Millet 4,497 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Feck artificial lighting.. if they cant do it naturally in our normal uk photoperiod they not worth keeping.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mule1943 291 Posted February 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 That's a f**ker, Mule! You build ye f**king room. Take all things into consideration. Have if lovely ..... Then some prat plants leylandii and there's just f**k all ye can do about it. Shit! Thankfully, that can never happen here. Cunning me owns the land fronting my window! 'Mind you; That f**king great hedge is mine too! But, that's security. No one'll be able to see there's birds in the room behind it. I was in there, today. Shifting shit. Measuring shit. Writing notes and drawing diagrams. I'm trying to suss the best layout for the cages. It's not easy, for me, as I simply lack any experience to base my judgements on. How many young canaries would you put in a five foot long, nineteen inch square flight, please? That's an issue I could use some opinions on Shamo; Yeah. I just recently read about why the show breeders like to get their birds breeding, the earlier the better. All makes perfect sense too. Crafty sods; I s'pose they'll stop at nothing to get the edge on their rivals! F**k! D'you know what? I was looking at a fantastic set up, just today. Guy had more f**king lights ..... Ah! Found it! How's This for f**king Light?! He must, surely, work for a lighting firm? Personally? I intend to go with a couple hung down between my face to face blocks of cages. Gnipper; Yeah. What ever ..... im married to the wife not EDF nice set up tho ,need me own wind farm to power this lot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shamo 319 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Feck artificial lighting.. if they cant do it naturally in our normal uk photoperiod they not worth keeping.. My sentiments too. I believe they should be kept as wild as you can, within the constraints of 'captive breeding'.........otherwise, it is just keeping a glorified Canary. However, I also understand there are times we have to help..if it is having to use lights, so be it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mule1943 291 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Feck artificial lighting.. if they cant do it naturally in our normal uk photoperiod they not worth keeping.. My sentiments too. I believe they should be kept as wild as you can, within the constraints of 'captive breeding'.........otherwise, it is just keeping a glorified Canary. However, I also understand there are times we have to help..if it is having to use lights, so be it. this light is for my canarys ,not my british they bred in outside flights 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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