Night Vision With Lamping

[the big chief 3,099]

 

Yes you pay for what you get...but I dont think cost was any issue when asking if theres any benefit in using NV...

 

The model he mentioned with a T20 should be good enough to do what he needs out to 200yd+ , not the best but very useable with additional IR.

it becomes an issue when you read threads, spend fifty quid on one, walk into a dark field, turn it on and see a slightly less dark field

 

the bresser i have with the inbuilt ir you can only see about 60 yards max and thats when you turn up the brightness but stick a t20 on it and you can see 200+ wtch is more than ample

[paulus 26]

 

 

Yes you pay for what you get...but I dont think cost was any issue when asking if theres any benefit in using NV...

 

The model he mentioned with a T20 should be good enough to do what he needs out to 200yd+ , not the best but very useable with additional IR.

it becomes an issue when you read threads, spend fifty quid on one, walk into a dark field, turn it on and see a slightly less dark field

 

the bresser i have with the inbuilt ir you can only see about 60 yards max and thats when you turn up the brightness but stick a t20 on it and you can see 200+

 

thats what i am trying to say, knowledge is the edge

[andy97 209]

so now most sensible lads agree that its not a bad idea with the right kit on skittish rabbits for a run as said ive had to start travelling for some decent runs n its bin worth it but if went local for an hour and had some nv gear would defo have a go to get some runs i mean even if you get within 50yrds you should stil get a decent run

[sniper2011 69]

bottom line,nv should be apart of your lamping kit,even the crap ones can be made better,with the aid of a infered filter and lamp.

[baw 4,360]

Gafer, you have a spot with very spooky rabbits, it doesn't take long at all for rabbits to get wise to a lamp, be it from dog, gun or whatever..

 

Certain land I go on, the first hint of a light hitting anywhere in the field and there off.. all of them, gone for dust.

 

Night vision will definitely help you get onto more runs with your dog on these type of places, but maybe only one or two in the field if there that alert to a beam as soon as you put it on for the dog to run.

 

I don't understand people saying its unsporting, in a sense your using it to get onto quarry that is really skitty and in some places you can't even get near them for a run. BUT then people will wait for a windy night ???? Is that not unsporting, then use a lamp, then some slip more than one dog..is ferreting a totally netted warren sporting?

 

Its all bollocks mate, do as you please, I can guarantee you if you use any half decent night vision device you will get more runs on shy rabbits, then use your lamp as normal, only difference your getting onto them, instead of an empty field.

I don't think anyone is denying he will get closer to the rabbits using nv but more the practicality. Unlike an air rifle, you obviously still need to use the lamp with the dog so is it really worth the hassle and cost for 1 run? It's maybe just me but nv wouldn't enter my head if I was in that situation. He says its his pals permission and there's the key word, permission. How many on here would allow the situation of all and sundry to hammer your permission to the point of buying nv so you could get a single run? Not many I'd say, I know I wouldn't. As I said earlier, you need to look at what's causing them to be lamp shy. In this case poachers. So he needs to eradicate the problem for the cure. There aren't many farmers would put up with the guy they've gave permission to hunt the ground, allow every c**t with a lamp to run A mock. Instead of getting nv for a run, I'd be dealing with the poachers before one of them gets permission and throws your mate off it. If its shared permission, I'd just walk away as its a lost cause before I'd get nv.

[paulus 26]

having only 2 hands and an age old inability to learn juggling,i may struggle,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[fluff 409]

only pro piont i can see is for roadsiding gate ways, spying game without spooking them and come later on when its quite and have your sport, a few mates i have ,have 4 grand ones on there estate ideal for foxes amongst sheep etc on massive land , with big rifle ,as there spooky in some places

Edited February 27, 2014 by fluff

[baw 4,360]

having only 2 hands and an age old inability to learn juggling,i may struggle,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

It's funny how you presume things about people..... I always had you down as a fine juggler

[the big chief 3,099]

 

Gafer, you have a spot with very spooky rabbits, it doesn't take long at all for rabbits to get wise to a lamp, be it from dog, gun or whatever..

 

Certain land I go on, the first hint of a light hitting anywhere in the field and there off.. all of them, gone for dust.

 

Night vision will definitely help you get onto more runs with your dog on these type of places, but maybe only one or two in the field if there that alert to a beam as soon as you put it on for the dog to run.

 

I don't understand people saying its unsporting, in a sense your using it to get onto quarry that is really skitty and in some places you can't even get near them for a run. BUT then people will wait for a windy night ???? Is that not unsporting, then use a lamp, then some slip more than one dog..is ferreting a totally netted warren sporting?

 

Its all bollocks mate, do as you please, I can guarantee you if you use any half decent night vision device you will get more runs on shy rabbits, then use your lamp as normal, only difference your getting onto them, instead of an empty field.

I don't think anyone is denying he will get closer to the rabbits using nv but more the practicality. Unlike an air rifle, you obviously still need to use the lamp with the dog so is it really worth the hassle and cost for 1 run? It's maybe just me but nv wouldn't enter my head if I was in that situation. He says its his pals permission and there's the key word, permission. How many on here would allow the situation of all and sundry to hammer your permission to the point of buying nv so you could get a single run? Not many I'd say, I know I wouldn't. As I said earlier, you need to look at what's causing them to be lamp shy. In this case poachers. So he needs to eradicate the problem for the cure. There aren't many farmers would put up with the guy they've gave permission to hunt the ground, allow every c**t with a lamp to run A mock. Instead of getting nv for a run, I'd be dealing with the poachers before one of them gets permission and throws your mate off it. If its shared permission, I'd just walk away as its a lost cause before I'd get nv.

 

permission is permission baw and its like rocking horse shit to get round hear and areas round hear thy would rarther shoot ya dog i already have nv so its no extra cost alot of you seem to be missing the point so i will put it across again no matter where you lamp to scan for the rabbits if the rabbits spots a lamp its off so no amount of field craft will sort that problem out so if i use nv to get in between them then put the lamp on i get a chance at a run all i am doing is missing out looking for them with the lamp you still have to walk up the same its just in the dark and in the dark you have to stalk them because they know something is there

[South hams hunter 8,921]

Well get out and actually do it then

[IanB 0]

 

Gafer, you have a spot with very spooky rabbits, it doesn't take long at all for rabbits to get wise to a lamp, be it from dog, gun or whatever..

 

Certain land I go on, the first hint of a light hitting anywhere in the field and there off.. all of them, gone for dust.

 

Night vision will definitely help you get onto more runs with your dog on these type of places, but maybe only one or two in the field if there that alert to a beam as soon as you put it on for the dog to run.

 

I don't understand people saying its unsporting, in a sense your using it to get onto quarry that is really skitty and in some places you can't even get near them for a run. BUT then people will wait for a windy night ???? Is that not unsporting, then use a lamp, then some slip more than one dog..is ferreting a totally netted warren sporting?

 

Its all bollocks mate, do as you please, I can guarantee you if you use any half decent night vision device you will get more runs on shy rabbits, then use your lamp as normal, only difference your getting onto them, instead of an empty field.

I don't think anyone is denying he will get closer to the rabbits using nv but more the practicality. Unlike an air rifle, you obviously still need to use the lamp with the dog so is it really worth the hassle and cost for 1 run? It's maybe just me but nv wouldn't enter my head if I was in that situation. He says its his pals permission and there's the key word, permission. How many on here would allow the situation of all and sundry to hammer your permission to the point of buying nv so you could get a single run? Not many I'd say, I know I wouldn't. As I said earlier, you need to look at what's causing them to be lamp shy. In this case poachers. So he needs to eradicate the problem for the cure. There aren't many farmers would put up with the guy they've gave permission to hunt the ground, allow every c**t with a lamp to run A mock. Instead of getting nv for a run, I'd be dealing with the poachers before one of them gets permission and throws your mate off it. If its shared permission, I'd just walk away as its a lost cause before I'd get nv.

It doesn't take poachers to cause rabbits to be spooked... You could go in a field teeming with rabbits start of the season get a few runs, the rest of the rabbits are off, do this a few times through the year and they will be wise in no time, same with shooting..Especially at the backend of the season.

[the big chief 3,099]

Well get out and actually do it then

yes oh mighty one

[baw 4,360]

 

 

Gafer, you have a spot with very spooky rabbits, it doesn't take long at all for rabbits to get wise to a lamp, be it from dog, gun or whatever..

 

Certain land I go on, the first hint of a light hitting anywhere in the field and there off.. all of them, gone for dust.

 

Night vision will definitely help you get onto more runs with your dog on these type of places, but maybe only one or two in the field if there that alert to a beam as soon as you put it on for the dog to run.

 

I don't understand people saying its unsporting, in a sense your using it to get onto quarry that is really skitty and in some places you can't even get near them for a run. BUT then people will wait for a windy night ???? Is that not unsporting, then use a lamp, then some slip more than one dog..is ferreting a totally netted warren sporting?

 

Its all bollocks mate, do as you please, I can guarantee you if you use any half decent night vision device you will get more runs on shy rabbits, then use your lamp as normal, only difference your getting onto them, instead of an empty field.

I don't think anyone is denying he will get closer to the rabbits using nv but more the practicality. Unlike an air rifle, you obviously still need to use the lamp with the dog so is it really worth the hassle and cost for 1 run? It's maybe just me but nv wouldn't enter my head if I was in that situation. He says its his pals permission and there's the key word, permission. How many on here would allow the situation of all and sundry to hammer your permission to the point of buying nv so you could get a single run? Not many I'd say, I know I wouldn't. As I said earlier, you need to look at what's causing them to be lamp shy. In this case poachers. So he needs to eradicate the problem for the cure. There aren't many farmers would put up with the guy they've gave permission to hunt the ground, allow every c**t with a lamp to run A mock. Instead of getting nv for a run, I'd be dealing with the poachers before one of them gets permission and throws your mate off it. If its shared permission, I'd just walk away as its a lost cause before I'd get nv.

It doesn't take poachers to cause rabbits to be spooked... You could go in a field teeming with rabbits start of the season get a few runs, the rest of the rabbits are off, do this a few times through the year and they will be wise in no time, same with shooting..

That's true and it ain't nothing new. The more frequent you lamp the more spooked they'll be. If you've no control over how frequently your grounds getting lamped then that's a problem. I'm sure we've all went on our land and you know instinctively someone's been on it recently. I don't see how anyone with limited ground can expect to catch numbers from soley lamping anyway, it's pretty obvious what's going to happen. Anyway, I don't want to get into an argument with you, my bums starting to twitch

[nothernlite 18,076]

 

Well get out and actually do it then

yes oh mighty one

 

think hes jealous of you gaffer or he fancys you mate shh were you the we boy that had a photo up of you f***ing a snowman ? a while ago

[IanB 0]

Best to just use or do whatever you decide is best.... someone will always disagree or have a view on every topic..