paulus 26 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 i think the nite site spotter would be perfect for this just scan with the spotter walk up on them then switch the lamp and slip the dogand thats all it will be used for mate i have one on my airgun and you still have to get in between them and they know you are there and you don't allways get a shot off you have to walk slow to them and stalk in the dark so that will aply when using the spotter You can be a lot quieter with an air gun. You don't have a dog chocking itself on a slip lead next seasons secret weapon i have just made a set for my dog along with some sadle bags pall so i have no need to get out of the car just send him on his merry way not a patch on a silent aerial attack, nobody is even going to even think of looking upwards in them hot places Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 No you dodged the questions which I was I stopped replying Well travel 50 miles in a different direction or use a dog with 4 legs hey gaffer you cant educate beef some cuts are to thick he has a lot of asumptions about me for some reason but asumption is the mother of all f**k ups and shh you just f****d up again Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 thats me trawling the net now for a 2nd hand rc hellicopter paulus Quote Link to post
mud 2,044 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 (edited) ............. Edited November 3, 2014 by mud Quote Link to post
clipo 871 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 i think the nite site spotter would be perfect for this just scan with the spotter walk up on them then switch the lamp and slip the dogand thats all it will be used for mate i have one on my airgun and you still have to get in between them and they know you are there and you don't allways get a shot off you have to walk slow to them and stalk in the dark so that will aply when using the spotterYou can be a lot quieter with an air gun. You don't have a dog chocking itself on a slip lead next seasons secret weapon pffft!!! My tiger will smash that lol Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 i think the nite site spotter would be perfect for this just scan with the spotter walk up on them then switch the lamp and slip the dogand thats all it will be used for mate i have one on my airgun and you still have to get in between them and they know you are there and you don't allways get a shot off you have to walk slow to them and stalk in the dark so that will aply when using the spotterYou can be a lot quieter with an air gun. You don't have a dog chocking itself on a slip lead next seasons secret weapon pffft!!! My tiger will smash that lol panoramic-images-tiger-wearing-night-vision-goggles.jpg but mine drops the dog right on the quarry Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Gafer, you have a spot with very spooky rabbits, it doesn't take long at all for rabbits to get wise to a lamp, be it from dog, gun or whatever.. Certain land I go on, the first hint of a light hitting anywhere in the field and there off.. all of them, gone for dust. Night vision will definitely help you get onto more runs with your dog on these type of places, but maybe only one or two in the field if there that alert to a beam as soon as you put it on for the dog to run. I don't understand people saying its unsporting, in a sense your using it to get onto quarry that is really skitty and in some places you can't even get near them for a run. BUT then people will wait for a windy night ???? Is that not unsporting, then use a lamp, then some slip more than one dog..is ferreting a totally netted warren sporting? Its all bollocks mate, do as you please, I can guarantee you if you use any half decent night vision device you will get more runs on shy rabbits, then use your lamp as normal, only difference your getting onto them, instead of an empty field. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 but if you know where they are and where they will be going it seems a tad pointless as you can get yourself into a position using field craft and local knowledge, might be useful if your somewhere new and have no idea as to the lay of the land, runs.warrens ect, at the end of the day you still have to stick the lamp on to slip the dog though Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 thats the hole reason i am going to try it ian i have a bresser and t20 and that is spot on so the next outing i will give it a bash Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 You will have more success, the weather still plays a part ambient light and wind. As paulus mentioned you could get downwind of them, where you think they may be out, but then again they could be further out than normal and you may spook them early, by pre-empting putting the lamp on.... The beauty is, you can see if anything is in the field from a distance, preventing a wasted walk...or guaranteeing you a decent run.. There not needed, but on land like you say, you will definitely benefit, no doubt about it. I was out the other night, I used a thermal and spotted 12 rabbits in one large field in various places from the edge to the centre of the field, if I had lamped this field to see where they were at, even for a few seconds, they would have all disappeared..if I had a dog, I could walk upto the rabbits, right out from cover in the centre of the field using NV and get some cracking runs.. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 You will have more success, the weather still plays a part ambient light and wind. As paulus mentioned you could get downwind of them, where you think they may be out, but then again they could be further out than normal and you may spook them early, by pre-empting putting the lamp on.... The beauty is, you can see if anything is in the field from a distance, preventing a wasted walk...or guaranteeing you a decent run.. There not needed, but on land like you say, you will definitely benefit, no doubt about it. theres also the fact theres night vision and then theres night vision and then comes extra ir illumination etc and how all that is effected by other things, people believe an aldi special will turn them into a cat high on carrots Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Yes you pay for what you get...but I dont think cost was any issue when asking if theres any benefit in using NV... The model he mentioned with a T20 should be good enough to do what he needs out to 200yd+ , not the best but very useable with additional IR. Or he could just get a cat high on carrots on a lead and wait for it to pull his arm off... Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 You will have more success, the weather still plays a part ambient light and wind. As paulus mentioned you could get downwind of them, where you think they may be out, but then again they could be further out than normal and you may spook them early, by pre-empting putting the lamp on.... The beauty is, you can see if anything is in the field from a distance, preventing a wasted walk...or guaranteeing you a decent run.. There not needed, but on land like you say, you will definitely benefit, no doubt about it. I was out the other night, I used a thermal and spotted 12 rabbits in one large field in various places from the edge to the centre of the field, if I had lamped this field to see where they were at, even for a few seconds, they would have all disappeared..if I had a dog, I could walk upto the rabbits, right out from cover in the centre of the field using NV and get some cracking runs.. thats how it is round hear ian i think it will be a good asset on very jump rabbits and the sole aim is just to give the dog a spin Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Yes you pay for what you get...but I dont think cost was any issue when asking if theres any benefit in using NV... The model he mentioned with a T20 should be good enough to do what he needs out to 200yd+ , not the best but very useable with additional IR. it becomes an issue when you read threads, spend fifty quid on one, walk into a dark field, turn it on and see a slightly less dark field Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Yes you pay for what you get...but I dont think cost was any issue when asking if theres any benefit in using NV... The model he mentioned with a T20 should be good enough to do what he needs out to 200yd+ , not the best but very useable with additional IR. it becomes an issue when you read threads, spend fifty quid on one, walk into a dark field, turn it on and see a slightly less dark field Agree Quote Link to post
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