Any Tip On Toilet Training

[Chris the bass 7]

Hi I have a 3/4 grey 1/4 collie hancock lurcher he is 13 weeks old.and I have had hi a week I know I carnt expect miracles in a week but I let him out in the yard and her goes for a wee/poo no problem but he still wees in the kitchen and on the carpet about 3/4 times a day and poos by the back dore. Some times I bring him in firing the yard and he will do it I take him on a walk and he is fine dose his stuff when he comes home and a hour or so later he will might wee in the hall/kitchen iv watched him eat his poo as well in the yard or the house wots this about ? Any help would be much appreciated ?????? Cheers

[Chris the bass 7]

Other than that he is a cracking dog listens to all my commands and learning verry quick iv had lurchers growing up but never had a pup before

[jeppi26 1,855]

Put newspapers at the back door and every time dose his business on it praise him for it and when he don't use it tell it off it will get the hang of it

[Casso 1,261]

Crate him , don't fall out with the pup at this early stage over something so simple to fix

[beast 1,884]

if you teach him to use papers then you are still teaching him its ok to mess in the house. in my opinion the reallesson is still to come, as when you stop using the papers he still wont know to wait until he is outside but instead will mess where the papers are normally put down. as casso says, keep the pup in a crate and every time you let him out, straight in the garden then wait till he messes. whenever you are not with him, put him in the crate. whenever you are with him, you must watch every second for the signs that he wants to go (head down sniffing about getting more and more frantic) and whip him outside quick. if you catch him in the act of messing indoors, dont scold him just whip him outside and wait till he has finished. there are 2 main reasons for toilet training going wrong, eithe failing to watch the dog enough, or failure to leave him outside long or often enough. both are the owners fault. i normally take 2 weeks holiday when i get a new pup, and expect it to be 90% house broken after this time

 

good luck

Edited February 22, 2014 by beast

[Kemperz21 65]

Crate it mine was the same after a while it all stopped but I wouldn't use paper as you will have to train it twice crate it at night it won't want to piss of crap near its bed so will hold as long as poss but pups pee within 15 min of drinking an waking up same for crapping so learn when it needs to go and take it out in time it will let you know when it needs to go all the best with the pup

[Chris the bass 7]

Cheers I might try the paper but how will I get hi to stop pooing on the paper or in the house iv tryed crate training him for the first 4 night he was in on but he was being sick and pooing and crying in it all night as soon as I let him stay in the kitchen he stoped crying/pooing/sick h for the last 2 nights he hasn't pooed or weed in the kitchen it's just the day time every time he gets up or goes the the kitchen I let it out and praze him 99% of the time he dose his stuff and come in then maybe he will wee in the hall way a short Time after

[Chris the bass 7]

Cheers kemperz21 how will I stop him from kicking off in the crate or going sick every day I got up he was head to toe in it that's why I gave up on it it's not pooing in the kitchen at night it's just the day time and I let it out all the time ?

[Kemperz21 65]

It will come with time as for being sick I never had that mine kicked off at night untill I gave him an old teddy to cuddle into a radio on quiet or a clock that ticks under his bed or all of the above also maybe a hot water bottle it may be missing its litter mates that have been replaced by you then you leave it may explain the being sick if your desperate try some or all of them things but think the trick is to leave them if they whine and it will stop eventually

[dymented 2,220]

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[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

I don't expect a pup to house train inside of eighteen weeks. Body's not developed enough for it.

 

I don't know how long human babies are expected to wear nappies for. But, it's a similar thing.

 

Being born. Opening their eyes. Weaning. Leaving their dam. Stopping squealing at night. House training. Basic OB. Fence jumping. Killing shit .....

 

All takes its own sweet time. Rushing most of it just wastes the Dog and ruins you.

 

[mattyg 1,862]

I agree with beast, mainly because I do exactly the same, 2 weeks off work and watch the little fcuker like a hawk. Can't expect em to get it right over night but bollocking em ain't the answer in my opinion( I've learnt from my mistakes).

Just keep at it and it will sink in eventually, you will still find the occasional dog egg and puppy puddle but that's the joys of keeping em indoors!

Good luck, Matt

[skycat 6,173]

The main problem in getting a pup from an environment like yours has come from is how the pup was reared. Pups that are reared on one material: straw in his case, is that the pups are shut in a stable/pen etc all covered in the same substance. They never get the opportunity to move from that place, nor to know the difference between bed and not bed: so they get used to peeing and crapping on the same material and in the same place they eat, play and sleep. Even worse is how he feeds the pup: throwing food down on the floor that has already been peed and crapped on.

 

A sensible breeder provides a bed area, initially within the walls of a whelping box, which is mostly covered in vet bed, for example. Half the bed will be soft bedding, the other half will be newspaper: even pups of 3-4 weeks try and move away from where they sleep to a toilet area. By the time a pup is 6 weeks old it should never be soiling its bed area if it has been reared like this.

 

You have to convince the pup that your whole house is a 'bed' area, but the fact that your pup was 12 weeks old when you got him means that you have a lot more work to try and undo the bad habits he has been forced into because of the way he was reared.

 

Firstly, keep him completely out of rooms with carpets. It is a good idea to confine a pup just to the kitchen to begin with. He needs to learn that all the house is a den/bed area, but he needs to learn this room by room, slowly and patiently on your part. You can't expect him to know this straight off. As Beast says, taking a couple of weeks off to be there 24/7 is essential. And you need to be very vigilant, watching the pup like a hawk all the time he is out of his crate.

 

Take the pup outside the moment it wakes up, and every hour thereafter, paying special attention to just after feeding, during playing: in fact, most of the time!

 

The type of food you feed will also affect how often a pup needs to relieve itself. Dry food makes a pup drink much more than it would if it were fed on a raw diet of meat and bone, even if you soak the dry food first. Also, and this is again due to how the pup has been reared, as well as possibly being affected by the type of food you feed: pups fed on commercial food with loads of additives and preservatives crap out stuff that still smells pretty much like food.

 

If you feed a raw diet the pup is much less likely to want to eat its own crap because the end result smells nothing like food. In fact, it doesn't smell too much at all, much less than the crap of a dog fed on manufactured commercial food.

 

I can send you the chapter on feeding from Running Dog Maintenance if you want: tells you pretty much all you need to know about feeding correctly. I've sent you a pm.

[Country Joe 1,411]

Skycats post is good info, I also agree with beast, i never have much problem with house training, first thing i do is crate them, then I have a period of 2 weeks where im more or less housebound with the pup, taking it out after a sleep, and when it has finished eating.

when the two weeks is up, ive cracked it, and the pup is more or less there.

[Kemperz21 65]

Skycat you really are a wealth of information never thought of a dog eating it's own crap because it smelt simalar to complete lol I always thought it was a behaviour thing being scared to crap because you shout at them so they eat the evidence are Hancocks really fed like that ? I was considering one from them one day might not bother if that's how there treated I wouldn't feed my ferrets like that