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[Brigzy 1,298]

  On 22/02/2014 at 20:22, pip1968 said:

ffs the waterloo cup never killed no where near that many hares in probably 4 or 5 years running than what they shoot in a day and they wonder why theirs a decline in the population

 

Why even mention the Waterloo Cup in connection with this slaughter ? Killing a hare was never the object in Greyhound coursing; it was the matching of two hounds, in fact the "kill" scored the lowest points. Hare Coursing and Hare Shooting are two completely different things, with two completely different outcomes.

[paulus 26]

there not in decline here

[shealy1 71]

Thats because there put there for shooting purposes dumbass any retard can see that

[paulus 26]

  On 23/02/2014 at 17:29, shealy1 said:

Thats because there put there for shooting purposes dumbass any retard can see that

now your getting it

[pip1968 2,490]

  On 23/02/2014 at 15:45, Brigzy said:

 

  On 22/02/2014 at 20:22, pip1968 said:

ffs the waterloo cup never killed no where near that many hares in probably 4 or 5 years running than what they shoot in a day and they wonder why theirs a decline in the population

 

Why even mention the Waterloo Cup in connection with this slaughter ? Killing a hare was never the object in Greyhound coursing; it was the matching of two hounds, in fact the "kill" scored the lowest points. Hare Coursing and Hare Shooting are two completely different things, with two completely different outcomes.

thats why i did mention it because shooting hares is slaughter just look at the numbers they shoot to what the waterloo cup might have killed in 4 or 5 yrs and they blame dog men for the decline

[gsdxg 10]

driven hare shooting is no test for a hare .you could get the most obese set of shooters and set them in position .it takes little skill to blow a hare to peices with a twelve bore shotgun .to course hares with a good lurcher is easier said than done .over the last 44 years i have only seen 2 really good hare dogs .i have seen lots that could catch plenty in the lamp but who could catch very few strong winter daylight hares .a really good hare dog preban was something for the eye to see a rare priveledge . it takes time and luck and patience to get a really good hare dog .its not a common thing to see a good hare dog .the antis really talk rubissh really good hare dogs are as rare as a ballyregan bob or a sculouge champ. shooting hares is wrong they were created for the chase .if these shoots want the hares thinned out.why not long net them ? and put them on barren ground ? but of course they wont do that as there is no money to be made

[Snifferboy 659]

  On 23/02/2014 at 15:01, paulus said:

 

  On 23/02/2014 at 14:52, Snifferboy said:

 

  On 23/02/2014 at 14:40, paulus said:

 

  On 23/02/2014 at 14:26, Snifferboy said:

 

  On 23/02/2014 at 10:12, paulus said:

in order for hare drives to be viable on a shoot annually there has to be a healthy sustainable population, this population is managed, the thing you lads don't get is its all financial, the countryside is as much about money as the city of London is, to compare a man with a dog to an organised hare shoot is daft, yes the hunting act is a pile of crock but if hare coursing was legal you still wouldn't get a chance of getting at those hares legally as financially it wouldn't make sense to the estate owners, the hare is in decline in the areas where its not protected for commercial purposes and thats not down to the men with guns is it

I do get that it is about money… And that these populations are managed by the estate… Being slightly dyslexic I don't always get down in writing what I am thinking at the time as it takes me ages to put a post down . I think my main point is "we" lurcher owners are frowned upon for the coursing of critters as it is deemed cruel and un-merciless etc. Yet a driven hare shoot isn't? And as a point you have raised, surely there is room for the land owners to create revenue for themselves organising hare coursing meets… I'm only young and daft and I certainly don't know anything about the money involved in the Waterloo cup and such like but surely there was some money involved? I guess the difference in money between paying guns and paying coursers would be worlds apart, but how far? Just a thought so don't pull me to shreds...

 

the problem is an army of hare shooters didn't go around the countryside leaving a trail and destruction and grief, its about a perception of what a hare courser is, its same when people think all people who ride to hounds are rich and posh, its just not true, the hare coursing fraternity has been well and truely shafted by the actions of a few. even without the ban to it would be near impossible to get something off the ground, its a crying shame as the media have since demonised hunting with lurchers at every and this is not just hare coursers. i love nothing more than seeing a good lurcher doing its thing, its something primeval but the chances of doing it get smaller and smaller every year due to the actions of idiototic two minute wonders seeking two minutes of back slapping on the net,

 

You're right we are screwed… So there would be nothing to loose in getting a equinox style documentary together looking at the whole thing from the other side of the fence… Obviously easier said than done, but the whole picture is never put across on these topics covered by the media… I get that there is always some pratt that buggers things up for the majority, seeking some sort of recognition etc. again this is true for every walk of life.

 

What kind of money was involved (if any) at the hare coursing meets of old?

 

money was never the factor that's a recent thing most were coursing clubs, i still know farmers who would love to see coursing once again on their land but there very warey of who they would want to do it, i never understand why a factual programme on lurchers and lurcherwork has never been made and aired on mainstream tv. deer coursing,hare coursing shown in its true light rather than being associated with every crime on the planet

 

I'm sure you see the point that I'm angling for though, I'm sure there would be a few that have the funds to actually "pay for a day" then as you say coursing clubs like syndicate shoots etc. and so on.

 

The documentary on Lurchers is something I have talked about in the past to a Wildlife Camera Man I know. But its not like you could get decent or new footage of actual Deer Coursing etc. without signing yourself up for some time inside… Or is there? I'm not sure whether that program on Gypsy life etc. got away with having the go pro on the dog that caught the CWD?

 

Then I guess if you did put together a documentary on Lurcherwork, exposing yourself doing these types of things could open another can of worms… I guess thats why nobody has ever done it...

[Snifferboy 659]

  On 23/02/2014 at 17:35, paulus said:

 

  On 23/02/2014 at 17:29, shealy1 said:

Thats because there put there for shooting purposes dumbass any retard can see that

now your getting it

 

So, do/have people ever bred hares solely for shooting or is natural stock that is just managed?

[paulus 26]

  On 23/02/2014 at 22:33, Snifferboy said:

 

  On 23/02/2014 at 17:35, paulus said:

 

  On 23/02/2014 at 17:29, shealy1 said:

Thats because there put there for shooting purposes dumbass any retard can see that

now your getting it

 

So, do/have people ever bred hares solely for shooting or is natural stock that is just managed?

 

its a by-product of shoot management so you could say their naturally managed