A Couple Of Videos To Watch…

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

Its pretty shit isn't it? What about the last shot that the main guy made… possibly the most unsporting shot I have seen… and took half of its f@cking head off What has gripped my shit the most is the guy on the shooting show is proud of that last shot and flaunts the hare to the camera. Some f@cker somewhere in parliament or where ever must see shit surely?

 

Well,.I've netted and wired a lot of hares,..and shot them with the rifle, to sell on....so,..perhaps it would be hypocritical to disagree with the contents of that Shooting Show episode,.but I do....

I feel the presenter rather shot himself in the foot, and his remarks concerning the headless hare were a wee bit insensitive.. I've no doubt it died a quick death,..possibly far quicker than other methods,.but,..I would have cut that bit out,..considering the way things are...

But, I am not a shooter, so I could well be wrong...

Just my take on it...

 

All the best, Phil.

[Irishman 117]

That would sicken ye shooting hares cant have it at all same with foxes dont understand why people do it

[shealy1 71]

Controlling numbers that was an absolute slaughtering from what ive seen paulus what r u saying cuz a lad is into dogs that he wouldnt have the money to gain permission like that back when it wuz legal ur full of shite [BANNED TEXT]

[jeppi26 1,855]

If the was a vid of afew lads with dogs and a pile of hare you lot would be saying well done lads dogs did well because it was guns you get the hump

[paulus 26]

Controlling numbers that was an absolute slaughtering from what ive seen paulus what r u saying cuz a lad is into dogs that he wouldnt have the money to gain permission like that back when it wuz legal ur full of shite [bANNED TEXT]

these blokes are paying thousands a season in shoot fees, its this money that makes the habitat the hares thrive in without it they wouldn't be there, its a simple enough equation, anywhere that's not managed that has a good population is hammered day and nights all year until there no longer viable, so who`s full of shit? not saying i agree with it but the facts are the facts,

[Snifferboy 659]

in order for hare drives to be viable on a shoot annually there has to be a healthy sustainable population, this population is managed, the thing you lads don't get is its all financial, the countryside is as much about money as the city of London is, to compare a man with a dog to an organised hare shoot is daft, yes the hunting act is a pile of crock but if hare coursing was legal you still wouldn't get a chance of getting at those hares legally as financially it wouldn't make sense to the estate owners, the hare is in decline in the areas where its not protected for commercial purposes and thats not down to the men with guns is it

I do get that it is about money… And that these populations are managed by the estate… Being slightly dyslexic I don't always get down in writing what I am thinking at the time as it takes me ages to put a post down . I think my main point is "we" lurcher owners are frowned upon for the coursing of critters as it is deemed cruel and un-merciless etc. Yet a driven hare shoot isn't? And as a point you have raised, surely there is room for the land owners to create revenue for themselves organising hare coursing meets… I'm only young and daft and I certainly don't know anything about the money involved in the Waterloo cup and such like but surely there was some money involved? I guess the difference in money between paying guns and paying coursers would be worlds apart, but how far? Just a thought so don't pull me to shreds...

[shealy1 71]

Anno a get u but if theres a lad standing holding a hare in a clip he gets made out some sort of criminal but if another lad is standing with a shotgun and the head blown off a hare hes brought across as a good guy doing good things controlling numbers of hares a just think thats a bit shit do u not think so ?

[paulus 26]

 

in order for hare drives to be viable on a shoot annually there has to be a healthy sustainable population, this population is managed, the thing you lads don't get is its all financial, the countryside is as much about money as the city of London is, to compare a man with a dog to an organised hare shoot is daft, yes the hunting act is a pile of crock but if hare coursing was legal you still wouldn't get a chance of getting at those hares legally as financially it wouldn't make sense to the estate owners, the hare is in decline in the areas where its not protected for commercial purposes and thats not down to the men with guns is it

I do get that it is about money… And that these populations are managed by the estate… Being slightly dyslexic I don't always get down in writing what I am thinking at the time as it takes me ages to put a post down . I think my main point is "we" lurcher owners are frowned upon for the coursing of critters as it is deemed cruel and un-merciless etc. Yet a driven hare shoot isn't? And as a point you have raised, surely there is room for the land owners to create revenue for themselves organising hare coursing meets… I'm only young and daft and I certainly don't know anything about the money involved in the Waterloo cup and such like but surely there was some money involved? I guess the difference in money between paying guns and paying coursers would be worlds apart, but how far? Just a thought so don't pull me to shreds...

 

the problem is an army of hare shooters didn't go around the countryside leaving a trail and destruction and grief, its about a perception of what a hare courser is, its same when people think all people who ride to hounds are rich and posh, its just not true, the hare coursing fraternity has been well and truely shafted by the actions of a few. even without the ban to it would be near impossible to get something off the ground, its a crying shame as the media have since demonised hunting with lurchers at every opportunity and this is not just hare coursers. i love nothing more than seeing a good lurcher doing its thing, its something primeval but the chances of doing it get smaller and smaller every year due to the actions of idiototic two minute wonders seeking two minutes of back slapping on the net,

[jeppi26 1,855]

Anno a get u but if theres a lad standing holding a hare in a clip he gets made out some sort of criminal but if another lad is standing with a shotgun and the head blown off a hare hes brought across as a good guy doing good things controlling numbers of hares a just think thats a bit shit do u not think so ?

Yes I do pal but it's each to there own aslong as your happy doing why you do don't let what others do get to you

[paulus 26]

Anno a get u but if theres a lad standing holding a hare in a clip he gets made out some sort of criminal but if another lad is standing with a shotgun and the head blown off a hare hes brought across as a good guy doing good things controlling numbers of hares a just think thats a bit shit do u not think so ?

didn't even watch either of the vids to be honest but what you are saying is because a perception has been put to the public that lurcherwork is cruel and is now criminal, the smoke for this fire has come from the arseholes who go out and do stupid things that we all then get tarred with,

[Snifferboy 659]

 

 

in order for hare drives to be viable on a shoot annually there has to be a healthy sustainable population, this population is managed, the thing you lads don't get is its all financial, the countryside is as much about money as the city of London is, to compare a man with a dog to an organised hare shoot is daft, yes the hunting act is a pile of crock but if hare coursing was legal you still wouldn't get a chance of getting at those hares legally as financially it wouldn't make sense to the estate owners, the hare is in decline in the areas where its not protected for commercial purposes and thats not down to the men with guns is it

I do get that it is about money… And that these populations are managed by the estate… Being slightly dyslexic I don't always get down in writing what I am thinking at the time as it takes me ages to put a post down . I think my main point is "we" lurcher owners are frowned upon for the coursing of critters as it is deemed cruel and un-merciless etc. Yet a driven hare shoot isn't? And as a point you have raised, surely there is room for the land owners to create revenue for themselves organising hare coursing meets… I'm only young and daft and I certainly don't know anything about the money involved in the Waterloo cup and such like but surely there was some money involved? I guess the difference in money between paying guns and paying coursers would be worlds apart, but how far? Just a thought so don't pull me to shreds...

 

the problem is an army of hare shooters didn't go around the countryside leaving a trail and destruction and grief, its about a perception of what a hare courser is, its same when people think all people who ride to hounds are rich and posh, its just not true, the hare coursing fraternity has been well and truely shafted by the actions of a few. even without the ban to it would be near impossible to get something off the ground, its a crying shame as the media have since demonised hunting with lurchers at every and this is not just hare coursers. i love nothing more than seeing a good lurcher doing its thing, its something primeval but the chances of doing it get smaller and smaller every year due to the actions of idiototic two minute wonders seeking two minutes of back slapping on the net,

 

You're right we are screwed… So there would be nothing to loose in getting a equinox style documentary together looking at the whole thing from the other side of the fence… Obviously easier said than done, but the whole picture is never put across on these topics covered by the media… I get that there is always some pratt that buggers things up for the majority, seeking some sort of recognition etc. again this is true for every walk of life.

 

What kind of money was involved (if any) at the hare coursing meets of old?

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

in order for hare drives to be viable on a shoot annually there has to be a healthy sustainable population, this population is managed, the thing you lads don't get is its all financial, the countryside is as much about money as the city of London is, to compare a man with a dog to an organised hare shoot is daft, yes the hunting act is a pile of crock but if hare coursing was legal you still wouldn't get a chance of getting at those hares legally as financially it wouldn't make sense to the estate owners, the hare is in decline in the areas where its not protected for commercial purposes and thats not down to the men with guns is it

I do get that it is about money… And that these populations are managed by the estate… Being slightly dyslexic I don't always get down in writing what I am thinking at the time as it takes me ages to put a post down . I think my main point is "we" lurcher owners are frowned upon for the coursing of critters as it is deemed cruel and un-merciless etc. Yet a driven hare shoot isn't? And as a point you have raised, surely there is room for the land owners to create revenue for themselves organising hare coursing meets… I'm only young and daft and I certainly don't know anything about the money involved in the Waterloo cup and such like but surely there was some money involved? I guess the difference in money between paying guns and paying coursers would be worlds apart, but how far? Just a thought so don't pull me to shreds...

 

the problem is an army of hare shooters didn't go around the countryside leaving a trail and destruction and grief, its about a perception of what a hare courser is, its same when people think all people who ride to hounds are rich and posh, its just not true, the hare coursing fraternity has been well and truely shafted by the actions of a few. even without the ban to it would be near impossible to get something off the ground, its a crying shame as the media have since demonised hunting with lurchers at every and this is not just hare coursers. i love nothing more than seeing a good lurcher doing its thing, its something primeval but the chances of doing it get smaller and smaller every year due to the actions of idiototic two minute wonders seeking two minutes of back slapping on the net,

 

You're right we are screwed… So there would be nothing to loose in getting a equinox style documentary together looking at the whole thing from the other side of the fence… Obviously easier said than done, but the whole picture is never put across on these topics covered by the media… I get that there is always some pratt that buggers things up for the majority, seeking some sort of recognition etc. again this is true for every walk of life.

 

What kind of money was involved (if any) at the hare coursing meets of old?

 

money was never the factor that's a recent thing most were coursing clubs, i still know farmers who would love to see coursing once again on their land but there very warey of who they would want to do it, i never understand why a factual programme on lurchers and lurcherwork has never been made and aired on mainstream tv. deer coursing,hare coursing shown in its true light rather than being associated with every crime on the planet

[shealy1 71]

Thats true but a just think a mass shooting of anything is shocking especially if its something ur saying is threathened is bang out of order just my opinion atb ts

[paulus 26]

Thats true but a just think a mass shooting of anything is shocking especially if its something ur saying is threathened is bang out of order just my opinion atb ts

your missing the point on these shooting estates there not threatened as there managed so huge numbers become a resource for revenue, there only threatened in places where there not properly protected and never get the chance to increase their population size due to being hounded day and night all year round

[paulus 26]

a more reasoned argument