scothunter 12,609 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 lol i guess so mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clipo 871 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I draw the line at dogs sleeping in my bed. he has the run of my house,and never had to pick up any accidents since i got him,but i still wouldnt let him in the bed. could get limes disease agree mate my bed is somewhere i like to get in when its all made up nice and fresh after a shower after a shitty day at work to sleep....i dont want some dirty stinking animal that dont wipe its arse after a shit stinking it out and waking me up every time it heres something.....each to there own like but f**k that 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,640 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 I draw the line at dogs sleeping in my bed. he has the run of my house,and never had to pick up any accidents since i got him,but i still wouldnt let him in the bed. could get limes disease agree mate my bed is somewhere i like to get in when its all made up nice and fresh after a shower after a shitty day at work to sleep....i dont want some dirty stinking animal that dont wipe its arse after a shit stinking it out and waking me up every time it heres something.....each to there own like but f**k that sounds like a few women who i used to know 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Outlaw Pete 2,224 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 :laugh: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted February 19, 2014 Report Share Posted February 19, 2014 i like having the dogs in the house with me, spending time with them when they are relaxed not just when i let them out their run for exercise. BUT they come indoors after the kids are in bed. and when i am at work, they are out in the kennel again before the mrs and babes are up and around. dont get me wrong, the kids spend time with the dogs i think its an important part of their upbringing, i take them out for walks and all the rest together, but i do not leave them alone together, i ssupervise closely. as it happens are my dogs are very good with the kids, i make an effort to bring them up that way, but i am just careful. not paranoid you understand, but careful 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
northern lad 2,292 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 We constantly hear people saying " never leave a child unsupervised with a dog " ......can a dog not attack a child when a human is in the room then ?.....like a quick snap at a childs face while mum is watching telly is acceptable ? Personally i will never understand the attraction in having dogs and small children growing up side by side in the family home.....i accept people do it but some people cant think sensibly for themself and these are the people that need protecting from themself.....whack high insurance premiums on high risk dog breeds and you watch how many of these idiots making a fashion statement by their choice of dog lose interest. Not sure the hefty insurance would work Gnash,was it 91 the Pits were banned,?,hence any APBT (or cross)less than 23 yrs old would be illegal and thus uninsurable,its a minefield for sure,half the idiots round here would get rid of them if the DDA was repealed..seem to think it gives them some sort of kudos having a banned breed Cant see the problem with dogs/kids living together personally ,my two girls grew up with 4 bull breeds and sundry terriers ,never a problem... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Getting back to the original thread, something's don't stack upto me the mother was heard saying the dogs eat her babies head and yet the police don't know yet the cause of death Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiercel 6,986 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Getting back to the original thread, something's don't stack upto me the mother was heard saying the dogs eat her babies head and yet the police don't know yet the cause of death The latest local roumour is that the dog laid on the baby and suffocated the child. Untill the cause of death is stated we can only guess. TC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Getting back to the original thread, something's don't stack upto me the mother was heard saying the dogs eat her babies head and yet the police don't know yet the cause of death The latest local roumour is that the dog laid on the baby and suffocated the child. Untill the cause of death is stated we can only guess. TC That sounds plausible mate. Nothing will bring the baby back but I hope the mother found the baby this way instead of the grizzly way portrayed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,013 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Getting back to the original thread, something's don't stack upto me the mother was heard saying the dogs eat her babies head and yet the police don't know yet the cause of death ' yeh that's what my wife heard on the radio , that it had grabbed the baby's head , and at 1 week old the dog might not seen it as a human maybe .? Either way terrible thing to happen, but as ive said it will keep happing for the reasons ive said .! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Getting back to the original thread, something's don't stack upto me the mother was heard saying the dogs eat her babies head and yet the police don't know yet the cause of death ' yeh that's what my wife heard on the radio , that it had grabbed the baby's head , and at 1 week old the dog might not seen it as a human maybe .? Either way terrible thing to happen, but as ive said it will keep happing for the reasons ive said .! But if that was the case the police wouldn't need a postmortem to get the cause of death anyhow, your bang on. A kenneled dog is a safe dog, a house kept dog ups the risk. It all depends on how much risk your willing to take over your kids life's. it's not a risk I'd take but to some it's acceptable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Huan72 687 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 It strikes me that there are a couple of truths that are relevant, not leaving dogs and babies has been mentioned and is so true, also peoples choice of first dog, a newly passed driver wont be getting a high performance sports car as there first car, its less forgiving and beyond their experience, if they do they will probably crash. Its the same with dogs, everything is probability and there is never a "never" but people who have no or little dog experience should start with a less demanding, highly strung, driven or combatative breed, its just common sense. My very first dog as a boy we got when I was 5, she was called Lady and was an old school cross breed, now I know more about dogs, she was actually a flat coat cross, a gentler more mild mannered dog you could not have asked for. I have had and been around dogs of all breeds and natures and for me personally, my dog is an integral part of the family, I have had dogs in the past that I could never have had if I had children, they were far too much of a liability, kennelled or not. Now for the unpopular bit, If my wife is away, my dog is on the bed, she roams around the house and is a family member. This sounds silly to some.......but, a dog who is in a healthy state of mind and is well adjusted, its possible to live like this. Dont get me wrong, some dogs would take the p*ss and get dominant thoughts etc but that type of dog is not in a stable place, in the mind or in the family. I know more about dogs than I do kids, I met my boy when he was 5 and he was actually terrified of dogs. My mum had a lakie/jack X, a real dog fighter but loved people, through managed meetings my lad quickly got over his fear of dogs. I fear there is a danger that we will forget the pleasure that i am sure many of us got from dogs when growing up. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 Getting back to the original thread, something's don't stack upto me the mother was heard saying the dogs eat her babies head and yet the police don't know yet the cause of death ' yeh that's what my wife heard on the radio , that it had grabbed the baby's head , and at 1 week old the dog might not seen it as a human maybe .? Either way terrible thing to happen, but as ive said it will keep happing for the reasons ive said .! Yeh that's my thought the dog might not be aggressive to have done this, it's prey drive probably just kicked in the same way it would if it found an animal. The dog was there first, suddenly a baby turns up which I can't imagine looks human to a dog. It's just done what it would do to a squeaky toy in my opinion. Everything that was in the papers made the dog sound like it was docile and none-aggressive. How many people in their right mind would let any dog be unattended with a baby that has just come home. I feel sorry for the parents, they're probably just naive and took their eye off the ball and have been punished for it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beast 1,884 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 http://www.southwales-eveningpost.co.uk/Dyfed-Powys-Police-investigate-death-baby/story-20650041-detail/story.html the article doesnt say much but...... read the comments at the bottom of the page, some of these people are fecking insane!!!!! some of them are virtually saying that the dog is as important as the baby!! FFS!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,591 Posted February 20, 2014 Report Share Posted February 20, 2014 We constantly hear people saying " never leave a child unsupervised with a dog " ......can a dog not attack a child when a human is in the room then ?.....like a quick snap at a childs face while mum is watching telly is acceptable ? Personally i will never understand the attraction in having dogs and small children growing up side by side in the family home.....i accept people do it but some people cant think sensibly for themself and these are the people that need protecting from themself.....whack high insurance premiums on high risk dog breeds and you watch how many of these idiots making a fashion statement by their choice of dog lose interest. Not sure the hefty insurance would work Gnash,was it 91 the Pits were banned,?,hence any APBT (or cross)less than 23 yrs old would be illegal and thus uninsurable,its a minefield for sure,half the idiots round here would get rid of them if the DDA was repealed..seem to think it gives them some sort of kudos having a banned breed Cant see the problem with dogs/kids living together personally ,my two girls grew up with 4 bull breeds and sundry terriers ,never a problem... Illegal is illegal though mate.....not enforcing a law has nothing to do with hefty insurance.....the best thing that ever happened for the Apbt in this country was the dda.....the worst thing was that it wasnt enforced properly.....................but how many of them idiots would fork out a few grand insurance in order to be rebellious ?.....and as someone else has said on this topic its no coincidence that none of these attacks have come from dogs owned by good upstanding citizens.....makes sense to me to stop the horse before it bolts,so to speak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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