Condition 4 Fox Can I Shoot Deer

[Cushty mush 95]

Applications are reviewed on basis of information provided by you and

can only suggest you submit your variation request, with detailed

information, for management to consider.

 

I would suggest it would be a good idea to look at items covered in the

DSC1 to ensure you provide proof that you are proficient in all aspects

detailed.

 

Regards

 

Axxxxx xxxxxx

 

Firearms Licensing

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: #Firearms Licensing Bureau

Sent: 14 February 2014 10:19

To: xxxxxxxxx xxxxxx

Subject: RESTRICTED: FW: Deer stalking info pleas

Edited February 14, 2014 by Cushty mush

[Cushty mush 95]

So he never really specifically said I need a dsc1

Every case or applicant is individually asest

[SportingShooter 0]

avon and somerset firearms, from last year they have stopped using the mentoring scheme to gain deer to be added to your certificate.They say they will only grant you deer if you do dsc1.Although other forces don't do this they have put this in place since last summer

 

Would like to see them put that in writing and submit it to court, wouldn't stand a chance.

[charlie caller 3,654]

As I said earlier, dsc1 is NOT required, the police are concerned (and rightly so) with your safety with a firearm, not with your capability to identify, or graloch, or skin a deer, just with safety to the public, go ahead, apply, include permission letters, etc, and see what they say, include in your application, a letter outlining your experience with firearms, not your experience with deer, this is not the issue, you are a competent person, remember that, and make sure they know it.

[Deker 3,478]

 

avon and somerset firearms, from last year they have stopped using the mentoring scheme to gain deer to be added to your certificate.They say they will only grant you deer if you do dsc1.Although other forces don't do this they have put this in place since last summer

Would like to see them put that in writing and submit it to court, wouldn't stand a chance.

 

They are flexing muscles they don't have, hoping to intimidate shooters into complying.

[Plummerterrier 291]

Just got my licence through the post today got granted 22-250 and have roe deer on my certificate and its my first application

[Cushty mush 95]

Bet it wasint with avon and somerset tho kk

Or was it?

 

I now can see your location after changeing

From the mobile app

 

 

(As I thurt)

Edited February 18, 2014 by Cushty mush

[Alex - SACS 5]

As others have stated, DSC1 is not required. Most forces have or will shortly be following Home Office FL Guidelines 2013 and conditioning for any lawful quarry, which will cover you for deer, humane dispatch, goats, boar and any other species you are lawfully entitled to shoot.

In regards to your application for a .243, if you already have an FAC, all you need to demonstrate is good reason (land and suitable quarry) for that calibre and rifle - end of.

In response to the previous post and as those of you who know us well, SACS does not, never has and never will limit its licensing support. And we have not stopped the legal support either - as last week's 2 successful SACS cases demonstrate. It just makes more financial sense to fund it ourselves and we are efficient, experienced and competent enough to manage it well.

In essence, the Scottish Association for Country Sports is run by members for members with old-fashioned shared values, financial efficiency, no self-interest, no marketing hard sell (so far all by word of mouth). We protect members and all their country sports - not just stalking / shooting.

If you are a member, call us if you have a query; we actually like talking to our members. Unfortunately we just don't have time to be on THL often. Too many consultations, member support and political and legal grind to get on with.

Remember, the future of country sports in the UK will be fought and won, or lost, in Scotland. They are coming at us from every possible angle - land reform, airgun licensing, national access forum, deer, RSPCA/SSPCA/USPCA, raptors, salmon farming, larsen traps, snaring... Literally every week is a new challenge.

If in doubt call us. Helping members is what we do best.

New website ready soon. Sorry about delay - my fault - lack of minutes in the day.

All good wishes,

Alex

[paulus 26]

[Alsone 789]

 

In response to the previous post and as those of you who know us well, SACS does not, never has and never will limit its licensing support. And we have not stopped the legal support either - as last week's 2 successful SACS cases demonstrate. It just makes more financial sense to fund it ourselves and we are efficient, experienced and competent enough to manage it well.

 

My apologies Alex if I got this wrong.

 

I wanted to join SACS the other week as a licensing issue was starting to crop up relating to security, but I could have sworn I found a copy of your policy somewhere on-line and when I read it the insurance underwriter excluded many licensing issues. If that isn't the case, then again my apologies. I can't find it now and it was several weeks ago so this side of hitting on it by accident, it remains a mystery!

 

I certainly wouldn't have paid to join the BASC if I could have joined SACS for £25!!

[charlie caller 3,654]

If you have not already, I suggest you contact him directly, as he will not be on here often, and it might be weeks before your query is answered.