titan 109 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 tht line has been slandered to fook from all ends the saluki coursing club hates them as did the northern saluki club, maybe cos working men kept em and they done well enough in right hands, as I have said befiore you would be hard pressed to find another breed of saluki that has put as many hares on the ground as these lines have , dig deeper than five gen in there history and they as well bred as any saluki , to be honest I think theres no such thing as a pure anynmore if there ever was, some count tazi sloughi as saluki Id go further and say most lurchers of that type are saluki, look at old pics of desert saluki and you see pics that look the spit of what lads run fens with these days , all regional variations of the same thing, honest and integrity are short in all walks of life if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, then it must be a ........ saluki Very true. I also heard, only rumour, that khan jihad was not 100% saluki, apparently, if any saluki is pure going back many generations, it will have some genetic fault? Not sure what i have been told is true, very hard to know what to believe at times.. ?? I can trace khans lineage on his mothers side back to tor of Dartmoor the sire to khan is P Sager blood ...I could probably guess who started the rumours though He's still slagging khan even now and the old boys dead Quote Link to post
arcticgun 4,548 Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Nine gen ped, end of arguement, if khan is a lurcher then they are all lurchers.... Blood Calculations for Khan Jihad COI: 10.505%Analysis Summary# of dogs12345678196 ancestors in 8 generations19624612234170112Max. ancestor count510248163264128256Ancestor loss314 Ancestor loss %61.6% AncestorsBlood%# of appearancesGen1Gen2Gen3Gen4Gen5Gen6Gen7Gen8[147003] Talk or the town50.00%11 [98123] Amazing Ali25.00%1 1 [98124] Sparraman Zalilen Aniseh25.00%1 1 [65180] Jamileh Mara Von Indira12.50%1 1 [65181] Tor Of Dartmoor6.25%1 1 [65183] Sunstream Kizzy Wintney3.12%1 1 [121528] ROYAL JIHAD50.00%11 [98122] Vances Girl25.00%1 1 [65184] Anna Bahim6.25%1 1 [65185] Ringsfield Pharoh29.69%4 2 11 [76291] My Clare14.84%4 2 11 [76293] Clea of Thurlsway7.42%4 2 11[76294] Joshua of Thurlsway3.52%3 2 1[76295] Abdi-Beth Macchab1.56%2 2 [98087] Ajuz Faraah Ibn Durak25.00%1 1 [91329] Ajuz Azziza12.50%1 1 [77804] Nanz Amira Azziz6.25%1 1 [64550] Manarah Yasser3.12%1 1 [64554] Bedouin Dahili1.56%1 1 [64555] Bedouin Al Taschith0.78%1 1 [86649] Sedeki Khee7.42%4 2 11[64556] Sedeki Bala3.52%3 2 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Yakoubi1.56%1 1 [77582] Starbolt Yasir El Ghazi0.78%1 1 [64551] Sedeki Mazuri Rasmus1.95%2 1 1[64552] Mazuri Ajman Al-Jafari0.78%1 1 [64239] Sedeki Ajman Arjimand3.52%3 2 1[64241] Ajman Amradi1.95%3 21[64240] Ajman Ashrak1.56%2 2 [68836] Knightellington Vandal1.95%5 5[74019] Ajman Mazuri Tamara0.78%2 2[72675] Mazuri Zirfa0.78%2 2[72426] Mazuri Erizada0.39%1 1[63738] Bedouin Caliph3.52%6 33[77807] Ghazala Beth Arabah0.78%1 1 [69120] Lusaki Fidelis6.25%2 2 [64821] Amena Lucifer3.12%2 2 [74712] Amena Rigbyhall Atum1.56%2 2 [75958] Amena Baron0.78%2 2[74010] Amena Burydown Razeka1.17%2 11[74011] Burydown Imrah0.39%1 1[68779] Burydown Pasha1.56%2 2 [63623] Burydown Freyha1.17%3 3[63856] Amena Joy1.56%2 2 [63858] Amena Gem0.78%2 2[63857] Sheikh Zendi1.56%3 12[76436] Burydown Iona0.78%2 2[76588] Bigalla's Halima3.12%1 1 [63625] Asphodel Alybe1.17%3 3[68838] Knightellington Beth-Ezra1.56%3 12[78413] Bedouin Cassandra0.78%1 1 [63739] Bedouin Baytor Abdullah1.56%4 4[69050] Bedouin Seawind 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Tahawi0.78%2 2[69024] Tahawi Belinda0.78%2 2 Edited February 27, 2014 by arcticgun 1 Quote Link to post
fluff 409 Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 i saw the original tor of dartmoor nice big dog we had dogs out of him years ago. and i phoned the man up who had khan jad i asked him if he was any good as a hare dog he says limited ,but he is at stud , as there not many salukis put out willy nilly to anyone with a dollar,i wouldnt waste my time artic explaing pedigrees ,best way is see how a dog performs then use him i had dogs down from brigawrn they were decent dogs agressive and strong on the chase he was a decent in his day , for breeding , saw sniper to out of him a very good dog that did do 5 ,hares and one the forley , pedigrees to get doctored in all sorts of dog breeds so it wouldnt be new plus when there at public stud not to chosen bitches its just for the dollar mate so any thing can happen 1 Quote Link to post
fluff 409 Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 artic as you no when you put money before selective breeding all rules go out the window for some mate ,some look as a dog as a meal ticket others coursing hunting companions were money wouldnt buy them , 2 Quote Link to post
titan 109 Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 i saw the original tor of dartmoor nice big dog we had dogs out of him years ago. and i phoned the man up who had khan jad i asked him if he was any good as a hare dog he says limited ,but he is at stud , as there not many salukis put out willy nilly to anyone with a dollar,i wouldnt waste my time artic explaing pedigrees ,best way is see how a dog performs then use him i had dogs down from brigawrn they were decent dogs agressive and strong on the chase he was a decent in his day , for breeding , saw sniper to out of him a very good dog that did do 5 ,hares and one the forley , pedigrees to get doctored in all sorts of dog breeds so it wouldnt be new plus when there at public stud not to chosen bitches its just for the dollar mate so any thing can happen I never had any intention of ever studding Khan it was only after months of constant pestering i agreed and i agree that was the ONLY shit bitch it went to.All of the other bitches were decent working stock At that time people would constantly tell me how difficult it was to get the use of a pure almost impossible in fact some would not give them the time of day..So I decided to change that.. And as far as Khan was concerned Pedigree's DON'T get doctored 1 Quote Link to post
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