Sturgeon, No Plan B

[foxfan 479]

What I mean is, if Scotland were to become truly sovereign and issue their own currency, f*ck the parasite central bankers out of it, I would be cheering from the rafters for them.

It's what we need to do here.

[Joe67 239]

 

are you also saying the uk debt is not the uks, and scotland couldnt walk away if it wanted to

If you can walk away from the debt, can we let you and keep all the assets? Or do you get to keep what you consider your fair share of UK assets but have no obligation to UK debt? Simple questions joe.

 

as already said, we havnt refused debt, never have, share debt, share assets

 

the uk gov has said if scotland votes yes should take on its share of debt

 

what scottish gov/yes is saying if you wont share assets, you can keep debt, fairs fair

[mushroom 12,921]

 

The Treasury and the Bank of England have guaranteed the entire debt of the UK, even if and when Independence comes. After independence, the two sides will sit down and work out Scotlands share of the debt. If Scotlands refuses to accept any of the debt it would be economic and political suicide; no lender on earth would trust them, the country would be a pariah.

But fecking heroes . . . .like Iceland. If only we would tell them to do one.

 

You mean Iceland that already had a currency of it's own and now no-one will lend to them without crippling concessions also they have the credit rating of a dole dossing smack rat

 

I vote yes! Give Scotland it's independence we'll keep the debt and the pound you can take f**k all go it alone and in 5-10 years time go begging to Brussels

[Brigzy 1,298]

Latest betting is;

 

YES; 7/2.

 

NO; 1/6.

 

The bookies rarely get it wrong.

 

Latest poll;

 

YES; 43%

 

NO; 57%

[Joe67 239]

 

 

The Treasury and the Bank of England have guaranteed the entire debt of the UK, even if and when Independence comes. After independence, the two sides will sit down and work out Scotlands share of the debt. If Scotlands refuses to accept any of the debt it would be economic and political suicide; no lender on earth would trust them, the country would be a pariah.

But fecking heroes . . . .like Iceland. If only we would tell them to do one.

 

You mean Iceland that already had a currency of it's own and now no-one will lend to them without crippling concessions also they have the credit rating of a dole dossing smack rat

 

I vote yes! Give Scotland it's independence we'll keep the debt and the pound you can take f**k all go it alone and in 5-10 years time go begging to Brussels

 

does the uk run at - £121 billion and 1.4 trillion debt?

[Brigzy 1,298]

The UK deficit, (the difference between what it earns in taxes and what it spends) is indeed 121 billion, less than half the deficit it inherited in 2010, and on course for a surplus in 2-3 years.

[Joe67 239]

more like 10-15 years with more brutal cuts

[Brigzy 1,298]

No Joe, thats the estimate from the IMF and others, even Labour have pledged to end the deficit within 2-3 years of getting to power. You are beginning to sound like Salmond now, with his exagerations and scare stories ! LOL !

[Joe67 239]

someone said in the scottish indy thread or quoted carmichael, i think it was BH, about no pound etc

 

the problem is him and no members keep changing what they tell us, how can anyone put faith in no, when they dont even know themselfs

 

 

an interview in November 2013 he specifically said that George Osborne, Danny Alexander and Ed Balls should avoid ruling out a currency union, stating:

 

““I don’t think that it would be sensible for George Osborne, Danny Alexander, Ed Balls or anybody else to be one hundred per cent categoric [sic] about [currency]…”

 

then there darling

 

As well as Alistair Darling’s comments that a currency union is “desirable” and “logical”, the No campaign’s own adviser Professor Jim Gallagher has stated that the nations of the UK are “an optimum currency union” and that “having one currency makes a lot of sense

[Joe67 239]

No Joe, thats the estimate from the IMF and others, even Labour have pledged to end the deficit within 2-3 years of getting to power. You are beginning to sound like Salmond now, with his exagerations and scare stories ! LOL !

ok scotlands deficit isnt as bad as uks even now we would be in a better position to look after the country, much better better than uk, most countrys except norway are running at a loss, if scotland is runing better at moment than uk, whos to say it wont be better in a few years? lets not keep pissing everything against a brick wall

[Malt 379]

problem is him and no members keep changing what they tell us, how can anyone put faith in no, when they dont even know themselfs

You mean like having faith in a bunch that straight up lied to the people it was elected to represent about having taken advice over EU membership then spent 20 grand in the courts trying to cover it up?? The hypocrisy is staggering, fair play..

[Brigzy 1,298]

But why would you want currency union, Joe, when it would mean your fiscal and economic policy would be dictated by a foreign government ? What sort of independence is that ?

[Joe67 239]

But why would you want currency union, Joe, when it would mean your fiscal and economic policy would be dictated by a foreign government ? What sort of independence is that ?

we would still have more/better control of our £,(7% at moment) using it more wiser than the uk gov

[gonetoearth 5,144]

Right lets have a referendum if. Scotland leaves.

 

Should they be allowed to use sterling ( catchy name that )

 

Or should they be told to fook off and make there own.

 

Now being theres. 5.2 millon of them and 55 million of us bring on the referendum

[mushroom 12,921]

The UK deficit, (the difference between what it earns in taxes and what it spends) is indeed 121 billion, less than half the deficit it inherited in 2010, and on course for a surplus in 2-3 years.

He won't listen to facts only BS fed to him. Waste of time educating him as his next reply shows

 

"more like 10-15 years with more brutal cuts"

 

His grasp of economics is elemental at best, the fact that the UK's growth has outsripped everyone else in the EU seems to have floated over his head!