Sturgeon, No Plan B

[foxfan 479]

 

Good god man, do you follow whats going on in Europe ?

Spain Italy Greece Portugal on their knees, France and Britain not far behind.

very true, uk gdp is worse than spain

 

its broken, time to fix it

 

Fix it ? by seeking even closer ties to Europe ?

[The one 8,477]

Anybody said whats going to happen to Scottish workers pension money when there funds are held by English Company's ?.

[Joe67 239]

Anybody said whats going to happen to Scottish workers pension money when there funds are held by English Company's ?.

Your state pension will be paid in the same way, but simply by the Scottish Government rather than Westminster.

 

As we move forward, independence will offer the opportunity to make improvements based on the needs and priorities of the people of Scotland and based on the policies you vote for in elections to the Scottish Parliament.

 

The Scottish Government has made clear that accrued pension rights will continue to be honoured after independence.

 

So state pensions will continue to be paid as before. And so will public sector pensions – including civil service, armed forces, police, fire-fighters, NHS, universities, teachers and local government pensions. Some of these schemes are already administered by the Scottish Government.

 

There will be agreement between the Scottish and UK governments as to the exact share of pension liabilities to be taken on by the Scottish Government – but it has repeatedly been made clear that no accrued pension rights will be lost.

 

Private sector pensions will continue to operate as before. The Scottish Government will ensure there are suitable protections in place for final salary occupational schemes.

 

Successive Westminster governments have been criticised for their approach to pensions – from Gordon Brown’s tax raid on pension funds, to the current Tory-led reforms to the state pension which (according to the Institute of Fiscal Studies) will see the “vast majority” worse off.

 

And yet the Westminster Government spends billions of pounds each year on tax relief for some of the wealthiest people in the country.

 

Independence offers the people of Scotland full control over the type of pensions system that they would like to see. It would be for the different political parties to outline their proposals, including the retirement age.

 

We know that an independent Scotland would be better able to afford pensions and other forms of ‘social protection’ – which take up less of our tax revenues and national wealth compared to the UK figures.

[Born Hunter 17,763]

A recent poll showed that UK citizens supported the Scottish Government policy of a currency union by a factor of 6:1

 

Where the f**k do you get these polls from? LOL LOL

[The one 8,477]

There was a poll that more folk where voting YES to Margo McDonald's assisted suicide bill than independence

[Malt 379]

if the pound was somehow stoped, it would cost the uk around 500 million, will they cut off there noise to spite there face? they will say its LIKLY it wont happen etc, why not say NO???? loli know how you all miss my copy and paste, from ITV today

Scotland would not need permission to continue using the pound despite the Chancellor's view on the issue, and could continue with the currency in the same way countries like Panama and Ecuador use the US dollar, Sam Bowman from the Adam Smith Institute said today.An independent Scotland would not need Englands permission to continue using the pound sterling, and in fact would be better off using the pound without such permission.There is very little that an English government would actually be able to do to stop Scottish people from continuing to use the pound sterling if they wanted to.Scotlands position would be closer to that of countries like Panama, Ecuador and El Salvador, which use the US Dollar without American permission, and, according to research by the Federal Reserve of Atlanta, consequentially have far more prudent and stable financial systems than if they were part of a formal currency union.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-02-12/scotland-would-not-need-permission-to-use-pound/

500 million? With respect Joe, that is peanuts in the grand scheme of things..

[Born Hunter 17,763]

 

500 million? With respect Joe, that is peanuts in the grand scheme of things..

 

 

LOL, I was thinking that. Its feck all! If Scotland aren't obliged to share debt then we surely aren't obliged to share all assets? UK assets account for more than just the pound. Sounds like a good deal for the UK!

[Malt 379]

 

500 million? With respect Joe, that is peanuts in the grand scheme of things..

 

LOL, I was thinking that. Its feck all! If Scotland aren't obliged to share debt then we surely aren't obliged to share all assets? UK assets account for more than just the pound. Sounds like a good deal for the UK!

Premiership clubs spend that on new players at the end of every season! The premier league also earns billions of pounds from TV rights yet £500 million is a lot to a member of the G8?

[mushroom 12,921]

 

 

500 million? With respect Joe, that is peanuts in the grand scheme of things..

 

 

LOL, I was thinking that. Its feck all! If Scotland aren't obliged to share debt then we surely aren't obliged to share all assets? UK assets account for more than just the pound. Sounds like a good deal for the UK!

 

FFS please someone put this fool out of his misery. Has has no grasp on this aside from "yippee independence" he puts up facts and figures that a child could ridicule and find holes in.. It's sad to let him carry on (funny mind )

[Joe67 239]

500 million was trade related, costs on top of current trade, theres a few other £ in there,

[Joe67 239]

 

 

500 million? With respect Joe, that is peanuts in the grand scheme of things..

LOL, I was thinking that. Its feck all! If Scotland aren't obliged to share debt then we surely aren't obliged to share all assets? UK assets account for more than just the pound. Sounds like a good deal for the UK!

 

FFS please someone put this fool out of his misery. Has has no grasp on this aside from "yippee independence" he puts up facts and figures that a child could ridicule and find holes in.. It's sad to let him carry on (funny mind )

 

first question you wont answers, uk scotland figures? remember expert?

 

are you also saying the uk debt is not the uks, and scotland couldnt walk away if it wanted to

[Brigzy 1,298]

The Treasury and the Bank of England have guaranteed the entire debt of the UK, even if and when Independence comes. After independence, the two sides will sit down and work out Scotlands share of the debt. If Scotlands refuses to accept any of the debt it would be economic and political suicide; no lender on earth would trust them, the country would be a pariah.

[Born Hunter 17,763]

 

are you also saying the uk debt is not the uks, and scotland couldnt walk away if it wanted to

 

 

If you can walk away from the debt, can we let you and keep all the assets? Or do you get to keep what you consider your fair share of UK assets but have no obligation to UK debt? Simple questions joe.

[Joe67 239]

scotland share of debt of 100-150 billion, cost on top of current trade if pound share was somehow refused 500 million, uk already runs at - 121 billion, 1.4 trillion debt

[foxfan 479]

The Treasury and the Bank of England have guaranteed the entire debt of the UK, even if and when Independence comes. After independence, the two sides will sit down and work out Scotlands share of the debt. If Scotlands refuses to accept any of the debt it would be economic and political suicide; no lender on earth would trust them, the country would be a pariah.

But fecking heroes . . . .like Iceland. If only we would tell them to do one.