Sturgeon, No Plan B

[danw 1,748]

that was just another share from a scotsman

 

there is more than snp behind yes campain, you guys just like to go on and on about snp

 

i enjoy ferreting and fishing at the moment

 

It would seem your quite talented at fishing

[Rake aboot 4,935]

Again, I am not getting dragged into this, but I have just a small point to add.

 

Joe, you persist in reminding us that independence is nothing to do with the SNP and we can vote them out afterwards etc etc.

 

You neglect to mention that the very existence of an independent Scotland will be soley formed and forever shaped by the SNP who are driving the issue at present.

 

Why cant you see that the two are inseparable. Independence at this time IS the SNP they are one in the same.

 

Oh,, and the SNP are arrogant f***ing liars. There will be no pound, and no free entry into the EU regardless of what the fat pie says.

 

And with that,, I`ll say bye

[Joe67 239]

going to be a busy day,

Scotland will not be allowed to share the pound with the rest of the UK if it chooses independence, the three main Westminster parties are to warn as pro-unionists turn up the pressure ahead of the September vote.

George Osborne, the chancellor, and Danny Alexander, the Liberal Democrat Treasury chief secretary (according to people close to the government’s thinking), and Ed Balls, Labour’s shadow chancellor (party officials have confirmed), will all deliver separate warnings that Scotland should not expect to form a currency union with the UK in the event of independence. The move takes away one of the central planks of the Scottish National party’s policy platform.


he warnings mark an escalation of the unionist rhetoric, with all three big parties at Westminster having thus far said only that it would be “very difficult” to form a currency union with an independent Scotland rather than ruling it out altogether.

The moves comes as polls show the independence cause gaining ground on the unionist side.

The SNP has made it a crucial part of its vision of independence that Scotland would be able to share the pound, rather than having to join the euro or establish its own currency.

The reports that Westminster’s leading parties would join in ruling out independence drew a sharp reaction from Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland’s deputy first minister.

She said: “This is an unprecedented and extraordinary bid by the Westminster establishment to lay down the law to Scotland, which will backfire spectacularly. But the reality is the Tory chancellor and his Labour and Lib Dem helpers are all over the place, with their briefing fast unravelling.

“First, we were told George Osborne was going to rule out a currency union, but now it is being reported that he will outline a Treasury paper with a series of tests and conditions which would be their starting point in negotiations to secure a sterling area.

“That is a very long way from what was initially briefed, and simply underlines the fact that the Treasury themselves know – whatever the bluff and bluster of Westminster politicians – that a shared sterling area is overwhelmingly in the rest of the UK’s economic interests following a Yes vote.”

The Westminster parties believe that the intervention by Mark Carney, the governor of the Bank of England, last month, makes it plausible for them to rule out a currency union.

During a visit to Edinburgh, Mr Carney highlighted the difficulties of a currency union between the two countries, saying: “A durable, successful currency union requires some ceding of national sovereignty.”

While Alex Salmond, the SNP leader, welcomed that speech, the Westminster parties believe it has given them enough scope to reject outright his vision of a eurozone-style currency union underpinned by a deficit limit.

Mr Osborne last week gave a flavour of his economic argument to the House of Lords economic affairs committee when he said: “Alex Salmond’s claims about the currency were pretty effectively demolished by the governor of the Bank of England.”

 

[WILF 46,834]

"When asked the question, Sturgeon would only show youtube videos one after the other until the reporters got sick of asking and Matt T Rat deleted the whole meeting " lol

[Joe67 239]

BBC are reporting osbornes paper doesnt rule out a shared pound i guess we have to wait and see, nows the govs chance to be straight with public, or will they try scare us?

[Joe67 239]

"When asked the question, Sturgeon would only show youtube videos one after the other until the reporters got sick of asking and Matt T Rat deleted the whole meeting " lol

 

 

hello wilfy, nice to see you again, its been far to long x

[scothunter 12,609]

its all falling apart for them lol

 

they have been exposed big time,now they have resorted to throwing the toys out the pram and saying well were no paying our share of debt. aye very mature. its all over and its no even march yet hahah

[Joe67 239]

its all falling apart for them lol

 

they have been exposed big time,now they have resorted to throwing the toys out the pram and saying well were no paying our share of debt. aye very mature. its all over and its no even march yet hahah

 

 

boe is an scottish asset to, ofcourse, dont share assets, dont share debt

 

do you no voters and supporters believe will get a 100% no tomorrow to a currency union, or will it be worded carefully, just incase?

[Malt 379]

going to be a busy day,

 

 

Scotland will not be allowed to share the pound with the rest of the UK if it chooses independence, the three main Westminster parties are to warn as pro-unionists turn up the pressure ahead of the September vote.

George Osborne, the chancellor, and Danny Alexander, the Liberal Democrat Treasury chief secretary (according to people close to the governments thinking), and Ed Balls, Labours shadow chancellor (party officials have confirmed), will all deliver separate warnings that Scotland should not expect to form a currency union with the UK in the event of independence. The move takes away one of the central planks of the Scottish National partys policy platform.

he warnings mark an escalation of the unionist rhetoric, with all three big parties at Westminster having thus far said only that it would be very difficult to form a currency union with an independent Scotland rather than ruling it out altogether.

The moves comes as polls show the independence cause gaining ground on the unionist side.

The SNP has made it a crucial part of its vision of independence that Scotland would be able to share the pound, rather than having to join the euro or establish its own currency.

The reports that Westminsters leading parties would join in ruling out independence drew a sharp reaction from Nicola Sturgeon, Scotlands deputy first minister.

She said: This is an unprecedented and extraordinary bid by the Westminster establishment to lay down the law to Scotland, which will backfire spectacularly. But the reality is the Tory chancellor and his Labour and Lib Dem helpers are all over the place, with their briefing fast unravelling.

First, we were told George Osborne was going to rule out a currency union, but now it is being reported that he will outline a Treasury paper with a series of tests and conditions which would be their starting point in negotiations to secure a sterling area.

That is a very long way from what was initially briefed, and simply underlines the fact that the Treasury themselves know whatever the bluff and bluster of Westminster politicians that a shared sterling area is overwhelmingly in the rest of the UKs economic interests following a Yes vote.

The Westminster parties believe that the intervention by Mark Carney, the governor of the Bank of England, last month, makes it plausible for them to rule out a currency union.

During a visit to Edinburgh, Mr Carney highlighted the difficulties of a currency union between the two countries, saying: A durable, successful currency union requires some ceding of national sovereignty.

While Alex Salmond, the SNP leader, welcomed that speech, the Westminster parties believe it has given them enough scope to reject outright his vision of a eurozone-style currency union underpinned by a deficit limit.

Mr Osborne last week gave a flavour of his economic argument to the House of Lords economic affairs committee when he said: Alex Salmonds claims about the currency were pretty effectively demolished by the governor of the Bank of England.

 

 

So, Sturgeon knows best eh? You seem to think every word that comes from her or Salmond's lips is gospel.. They've been found out and proved as liars (which you have failed to even acknowledge every time its been brought up..) yet you post here every time they come out with a snippet.. Honestly, they are making themselves look more pathetic with every peice of bitter rhetoric they spew, talking about being bullied when anyone says something they don't want to hear etc.. I honestly think the more they carry on like that the more harm they're going to do their cause.. Chucking your toys out of the pram in a temper ain't exactly the best image to portray..

[Joe67 239]

 

going to be a busy day,

 

Scotland will not be allowed to share the pound with the rest of the UK if it chooses independence, the three main Westminster parties are to warn as pro-unionists turn up the pressure ahead of the September vote.

George Osborne, the chancellor, and Danny Alexander, the Liberal Democrat Treasury chief secretary (according to people close to the governments thinking), and Ed Balls, Labours shadow chancellor (party officials have confirmed), will all deliver separate warnings that Scotland should not expect to form a currency union with the UK in the event of independence. The move takes away one of the central planks of the Scottish National partys policy platform.

he warnings mark an escalation of the unionist rhetoric, with all three big parties at Westminster having thus far said only that it would be very difficult to form a currency union with an independent Scotland rather than ruling it out altogether.

The moves comes as polls show the independence cause gaining ground on the unionist side.

The SNP has made it a crucial part of its vision of independence that Scotland would be able to share the pound, rather than having to join the euro or establish its own currency.

The reports that Westminsters leading parties would join in ruling out independence drew a sharp reaction from Nicola Sturgeon, Scotlands deputy first minister.

She said: This is an unprecedented and extraordinary bid by the Westminster establishment to lay down the law to Scotland, which will backfire spectacularly. But the reality is the Tory chancellor and his Labour and Lib Dem helpers are all over the place, with their briefing fast unravelling.

First, we were told George Osborne was going to rule out a currency union, but now it is being reported that he will outline a Treasury paper with a series of tests and conditions which would be their starting point in negotiations to secure a sterling area.

That is a very long way from what was initially briefed, and simply underlines the fact that the Treasury themselves know whatever the bluff and bluster of Westminster politicians that a shared sterling area is overwhelmingly in the rest of the UKs economic interests following a Yes vote.

The Westminster parties believe that the intervention by Mark Carney, the governor of the Bank of England, last month, makes it plausible for them to rule out a currency union.

During a visit to Edinburgh, Mr Carney highlighted the difficulties of a currency union between the two countries, saying: A durable, successful currency union requires some ceding of national sovereignty.

While Alex Salmond, the SNP leader, welcomed that speech, the Westminster parties believe it has given them enough scope to reject outright his vision of a eurozone-style currency union underpinned by a deficit limit.

Mr Osborne last week gave a flavour of his economic argument to the House of Lords economic affairs committee when he said: Alex Salmonds claims about the currency were pretty effectively demolished by the governor of the Bank of England.

 

So, Sturgeon knows best eh? You seem to think every word that comes from her or Salmond's lips is gospel.. They've been found out and proved as liars (which you have failed to even acknowledge every time its been brought up..) yet you post here every time they come out with a snippet.. Honestly, they are making themselves look more pathetic with every peice of bitter rhetoric they spew, talking about being bullied when anyone says something they don't want to hear etc.. I honestly think the more they carry on like that the more harm they're going to do their cause.. Chucking your toys out of the pram in a temper ain't exactly the best image to portray..

 

 

 

that copy and paste was from the FT not snp

 

lets wait and see what osborne says mate, everyone was reporting saying it will be a no, lets see

[scothunter 12,609]

especially from a so called new goverment. salmond always banging on about good relations with the england if indepence happens/. oh really great start eh.and that will trickle down to the english and welsh N irish man on the street who is left with our share of debt,when they are struggling with things as it is. told you months ago wee eck thrives on this, he would be happy if we hated each other. but its no working and now i thinki after today and tomorrow his wee dream fell at the first real obstacle.

 

ecks a chancer and was just wingin this election and hoping he could bluff his way through it.

[The Seeker 3,048]

 

straight forward :laugh:

[Joe67 239]

Again, I am not getting dragged into this, but I have just a small point to add.

 

Joe, you persist in reminding us that independence is nothing to do with the SNP and we can vote them out afterwards etc etc.

 

You neglect to mention that the very existence of an independent Scotland will be soley formed and forever shaped by the SNP who are driving the issue at present.

 

Why cant you see that the two are inseparable. Independence at this time IS the SNP they are one in the same.

 

Oh,, and the SNP are arrogant f*****g liars. There will be no pound, and no free entry into the EU regardless of what the fat pie says.

 

And with that,, I`ll say bye

 

 

np mate

 

http://www.snp.org/

 

http://www.labourforindy.com/

 

http://www.scottishgreens.org.uk/

 

http://www.scottishsocialistparty.org/

 

not sure if i forgot any other party, they all back it

 

snp are in power at moment why? they done a good job then won majority in a parliment that was supposed to be designed so no one party could (wonder why).. say what you will, the proof is in the puding, they got the majority on merit. scottish people thought the done a job and would continue to do so

[WILF 46,834]

Joe,, you better run some more crayons round to fattys house as they are re writing the white paper !! lol lol

[Joe67 239]

Joe,, you better run some more crayons round to fattys house as they are re writing the white paper !! lol lol

 

 

are you coming up here on the 14th wilfy? ive got a copy here for you