Born Hunter 17,832 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I love the way folk think if you love animals you must be an anti I thought antis were anti hunting So you guys, what's your thoughts on dogs getting skinned alive in Russia? You find it ok? It's a business after all...... There you go trivialising the argument again. Where has anybody said that to have compassion for animals makes you an anti? Making a decision on stock management based on emotion and not rational thought makes you a fool not an anti. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I love the way folk think if you love animals you must be an anti I thought antis were anti hunting So you guys, what's your thoughts on dogs getting skinned alive in Russia? You find it ok? It's a business after all...... I really couldn't give a flying f**k what they do tbh, my moral compass is fine !! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I've read all the comments and I pretty much agree with both sides of the argument. What I find laughable though is some are trying to say if you feel compassion to animals you must be an anti now that line of thought turned on its head is something the antis would come out with. All the hunting guys I know have compassion and respect to animals, it's the way we are. For instance, this morning I ran over a hare I actually found myself crying out NOOOO I thought to myself what a waste, that hare could have died providing entertainment for me and my dog, how barbaric does that sound but it isn't. I've the utmost respect for the hare, I think it's our best mammal. I'd rather see it given a natural chance against my dog than see its life ended under my tyre. Only hunting folk would understand that logic and maybe Gnasher The end result might be the same way, 1 dead hare but the means would have been fairer. As for the giraffe, as I say, I can and agree with most of both sides of the argument. I don't agree with the comments it's like cattle etc getting slaughtered every day. I know it's a life at the end of the day but it isn't a normal life, just like the hare, its different. It's the whole zoo dilemma that's the problem. When zoos started out, they'd capture these exotic wild creatures like giraffes, bring them thousands of miles for us to see, we were attracted to them. They brought huge crowds, millions upon millions of people wanted to see them. It was then deemed cruel to take an animal that knew what freedom was and enclose it simply for us to look at and rightly so. So they started breeding them and it didn't seem as bad when you knew the animal didn't know anything different than its enclosure. People still flock in their millions each year to marvel at these majestic creatures. It seems to have gone full circle to the point where ones surplus to requirement can be used to feed other animals. This is where I have a dilemma. Yes it's management but we aren't talking about budgies or cattle, we are talking about a giraffe, something to be marveled. If there was any way of saving it, it should have been saved. If you'd said to the guys who brought the first giraffes over that one day we'd be killing these healthy animals to feed others they wouldn't have believed you, what's changed? But then again, I understand and accept the reasons it was done. As I said at the beginning, I've killed loads of hares in my time without a thought, it doesn't mean when I see one dying needlessly under my tyre, I don't feel it was a waste. Same applies to this giraffe, what a waste of a healthy animal. I feel sorry for the guys on here who can't see the difference between a cow and a giraffe, it must be an unexciting life seeing everything as one. I had a girlfriend like that, just couldn't understand what the attraction to camping was. I'd say, look at the mountains, the loch, the trees, smell the pine..... She'd be like and? Beauty to her was a pair of shoes. So my sympathy guys, honest, my heart goes out to you. This isn't about an animal losing its life, this is about a giraffe, one of life's most awesome creatures getting killed needlessly. If that makes me sound like an animal lover, your f*****g right I am Its not about not having compassion for the giraffe or any other animal for that matter. Most people that hunt will have compassion for all animals. For me, its the disproportionate level of sentiment that people associate with certain species that (in my opinion) makes some people seem fairly anti-esque. Like proper antis do with putting badgers on pedestals etc Look, I get what your saying. But, some animals we pay money to do nothing more than look at. These animals are usually very unusual to us like a giraffe. If there was a reason other than it didn't suit that zoo, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But the reasons given for it being killed, don't sit comfortable with me. Some animals should be on a pedestal, I count a giraffe as one. are giraffes not tall enough your on a roll the day mate. Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I love the way folk think if you love animals you must be an anti I thought antis were anti hunting So you guys, what's your thoughts on dogs getting skinned alive in Russia? You find it ok? It's a business after all...... There you go trivialising the argument again. Where has anybody said that to have compassion for animals makes you an anti? Making a decision on stock management based on emotion and not rational thought makes you a fool not an anti. Errr lapin wrote this dougheed For me, its the disproportionate level of sentiment that people associate with certain species that (in my opinion) makes some people seem fairly anti-esque. Like proper antis do with putting badgers on pedestals etc Link to post Share on other sites
baw 4,360 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 M-E-N-T-A-L : laugh: Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,832 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Esque; a suffix that forms adjectives having the meanings “resembling,” “in the style or manner of,” I could describe my swimming a dolphin-esque, does that mean I think I'm a dolphin? LOL LOL He was drawing similarities. As I did with the antis putting certain animals on a pedastal purely because they're beautiful. Which was essential your argument. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,572 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 well i never Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,387 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Can't believe people have an issue with this. Humanely done and put to good use after probably the best biology lesson in history, what have I missed?! it had a cute little face and dinky little horns?? Sheep toucher.... Technically they are Ossicones 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Wildling 520 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Can't believe people have an issue with this. Humanely done and put to good use after probably the best biology lesson in history, what have I missed?! it had a cute little face and dinky little horns?? Sheep toucher.... Technically they are Ossicones You'd have a hard job heading that to a cliff edge to get some "push back" ! Link to post Share on other sites
RossM 8,149 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Run it's course now this...... Link to post Share on other sites
clipo 871 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Run it's course now this...... wannabe mod...... 3 Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,591 Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Only hunting folk would understand that logic and maybe Gnasher Is there anything you can do in your life where your not thinking of me !!!!!...What a f****n weirdo. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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