Where Are The Antis When This Was Going On??

[Huan72 687]

You got me ....................................... wrong sex, wrong nationality and most importantly...............wrong bank balance The thing is, when there's a risk in the hunting the respect goes up, you see this in spear fishing, respect for the fish and the hunting environment is paramount, it has to be. Make a mistake, it could be your last. I just think that without the respect, the whole point is lost.

[Bosun11 537]

 

 

Bloody hell, there are some hypocritical posts in this thread. This is a hunting forum, whose membership consists (in the main) of people who kill animals for food, and dare I say it, sport.... Who are we to judge the actions of this establishment? On what facts are we basing this judgement? Those printed in the press? The next time the papers run a story about cruel hunters, just cast your mind back to this thread and the way in which we've all judged the zoo, rightly or wrongly. The only important facts in this story are that it was killed humanely, and it's body was not wasted. Everything else is just hearsay and politics.

hows it hypocritical? the giraffe was fed some bread like it was everyday and then blasted in the head with a bolt gun while it was eating it.....id hardly call that hunting....

 

 

 

How?

 

Give your head a shake mate

 

We kill game to eat, we kill pests to prevent them harming us, we kill livestock to eat, we kill companion animals because we don't want or need them any more.... the difference?

 

None from what I can see.

 

Thousands of horses are put down and fed to hounds and zoo animals every year, right here, at home. Do people care? No.

 

This Giraffe was killed humanely (it saddens me to see THL members using the same emotive language the animal rights loons do "blasted with a bolt gun") didn't suffer, and was put to good use.

 

At face value, I have no problem with that, and I'm surprised so many on here have.

 

What saddens me most is the fact that we are all (myself included) judging this issue on what we've read in the papers and on the web. I don't like people judging me on few facts, and I don't think it's right to judge them on the bits of information that have been given (and probably twisted and misquoted) by the media and press.

 

One of the biggest problems we, as hunters, have faced in the last few years is misrepresentation by the media. The public at large judge us, and what we do, on what the media portray, which often differs greatly from the truth.

 

Given that, why are so many hunters so quick to judge what has probably been a difficult decision by a foreign zoo?

 

[lapin2008 1,587]

Can't believe people have an issue with this.

 

Humanely done and put to good use after probably the best biology lesson in history, what have I missed?!

[Malt 379]

Can't believe people have an issue with this.

Humanely done and put to good use after probably the best biology lesson in history, what have I missed?!

it had a cute little face and dinky little horns??

[lapin2008 1,587]

Must've been very cute little horns, seems to half of the into veggies

[baw 4,360]

I've read all the comments and I pretty much agree with both sides of the argument. What I find laughable though is some are trying to say if you feel compassion to animals you must be an anti now that line of thought turned on its head is something the antis would come out with. All the hunting guys I know have compassion and respect to animals, it's the way we are. For instance, this morning I ran over a hare I actually found myself crying out NOOOO I thought to myself what a waste, that hare could have died providing entertainment for me and my dog, how barbaric does that sound but it isn't. I've the utmost respect for the hare, I think it's our best mammal. I'd rather see it given a natural chance against my dog than see its life ended under my tyre. Only hunting folk would understand that logic and maybe Gnasher The end result might be the same way, 1 dead hare but the means would have been fairer.

 

As for the giraffe, as I say, I can and agree with most of both sides of the argument. I don't agree with the comments it's like cattle etc getting slaughtered every day. I know it's a life at the end of the day but it isn't a normal life, just like the hare, its different. It's the whole zoo dilemma that's the problem. When zoos started out, they'd capture these exotic wild creatures like giraffes, bring them thousands of miles for us to see, we were attracted to them. They brought huge crowds, millions upon millions of people wanted to see them. It was then deemed cruel to take an animal that knew what freedom was and enclose it simply for us to look at and rightly so. So they started breeding them and it didn't seem as bad when you knew the animal didn't know anything different than its enclosure. People still flock in their millions each year to marvel at these majestic creatures. It seems to have gone full circle to the point where ones surplus to requirement can be used to feed other animals. This is where I have a dilemma. Yes it's management but we aren't talking about budgies or cattle, we are talking about a giraffe, something to be marveled. If there was any way of saving it, it should have been saved. If you'd said to the guys who brought the first giraffes over that one day we'd be killing these healthy animals to feed others they wouldn't have believed you, what's changed? But then again, I understand and accept the reasons it was done. As I said at the beginning, I've killed loads of hares in my time without a thought, it doesn't mean when I see one dying needlessly under my tyre, I don't feel it was a waste. Same applies to this giraffe, what a waste of a healthy animal.

 

I feel sorry for the guys on here who can't see the difference between a cow and a giraffe, it must be an unexciting life seeing everything as one. I had a girlfriend like that, just couldn't understand what the attraction to camping was. I'd say, look at the mountains, the loch, the trees, smell the pine..... She'd be like and? Beauty to her was a pair of shoes. So my sympathy guys, honest, my heart goes out to you. This isn't about an animal losing its life, this is about a giraffe, one of life's most awesome creatures getting killed needlessly. If that makes me sound like an animal lover, your f***ing right I am

[Lab 10,979]

I've read all the comments and I pretty much agree with both sides of the argument. What I find laughable though is some are trying to say if you feel compassion to animals you must be an anti now that line of thought turned on its head is something the antis would come out with. All the hunting guys I know have compassion and respect to animals, it's the way we are. For instance, this morning I ran over a hare I actually found myself crying out NOOOO I thought to myself what a waste, that hare could have died providing entertainment for me and my dog, how barbaric does that sound but it isn't. I've the utmost respect for the hare, I think it's our best mammal. I'd rather see it given a natural chance against my dog than see its life ended under my tyre. Only hunting folk would understand that logic and maybe Gnasher The end result might be the same way, 1 dead hare but the means would have been fairer.

 

As for the giraffe, as I say, I can and agree with most of both sides of the argument. I don't agree with the comments it's like cattle etc getting slaughtered every day. I know it's a life at the end of the day but it isn't a normal life, just like the hare, its different. It's the whole zoo dilemma that's the problem. When zoos started out, they'd capture these exotic wild creatures like giraffes, bring them thousands of miles for us to see, we were attracted to them. They brought huge crowds, millions upon millions of people wanted to see them. It was then deemed cruel to take an animal that knew what freedom was and enclose it simply for us to look at and rightly so. So they started breeding them and it didn't seem as bad when you knew the animal didn't know anything different than its enclosure. People still flock in their millions each year to marvel at these majestic creatures. It seems to have gone full circle to the point where ones surplus to requirement can be used to feed other animals. This is where I have a dilemma. Yes it's management but we aren't talking about budgies or cattle, we are talking about a giraffe, something to be marveled. If there was any way of saving it, it should have been saved. If you'd said to the guys who brought the first giraffes over that one day we'd be killing these healthy animals to feed others they wouldn't have believed you, what's changed? But then again, I understand and accept the reasons it was done. As I said at the beginning, I've killed loads of hares in my time without a thought, it doesn't mean when I see one dying needlessly under my tyre, I don't feel it was a waste. Same applies to this giraffe, what a waste of a healthy animal.

 

I feel sorry for the guys on here who can't see the difference between a cow and a giraffe, it must be an unexciting life seeing everything as one. I had a girlfriend like that, just couldn't understand what the attraction to camping was. I'd say, look at the mountains, the loch, the trees, smell the pine..... She'd be like and? Beauty to her was a pair of shoes. So my sympathy guys, honest, my heart goes out to you. This isn't about an animal losing its life, this is about a giraffe, one of life's most awesome creatures getting killed needlessly. If that makes me sound like an animal lover, your f*****g right I am

f***ing shut up!!....lol

[Hydropotesinermis 724]

Bloody hell, I cannot believe some of the posts on this topic. The same people who are decrying the giraffes death would think nothing about killing a deer or fox.

It was animal husbandry simple as, as has been said it happens every day. Nothing untowards about it.

 

TC

Totally agree.

[baw 4,360]

 

I've read all the comments and I pretty much agree with both sides of the argument. What I find laughable though is some are trying to say if you feel compassion to animals you must be an anti now that line of thought turned on its head is something the antis would come out with. All the hunting guys I know have compassion and respect to animals, it's the way we are. For instance, this morning I ran over a hare I actually found myself crying out NOOOO I thought to myself what a waste, that hare could have died providing entertainment for me and my dog, how barbaric does that sound but it isn't. I've the utmost respect for the hare, I think it's our best mammal. I'd rather see it given a natural chance against my dog than see its life ended under my tyre. Only hunting folk would understand that logic and maybe Gnasher The end result might be the same way, 1 dead hare but the means would have been fairer.

 

As for the giraffe, as I say, I can and agree with most of both sides of the argument. I don't agree with the comments it's like cattle etc getting slaughtered every day. I know it's a life at the end of the day but it isn't a normal life, just like the hare, its different. It's the whole zoo dilemma that's the problem. When zoos started out, they'd capture these exotic wild creatures like giraffes, bring them thousands of miles for us to see, we were attracted to them. They brought huge crowds, millions upon millions of people wanted to see them. It was then deemed cruel to take an animal that knew what freedom was and enclose it simply for us to look at and rightly so. So they started breeding them and it didn't seem as bad when you knew the animal didn't know anything different than its enclosure. People still flock in their millions each year to marvel at these majestic creatures. It seems to have gone full circle to the point where ones surplus to requirement can be used to feed other animals. This is where I have a dilemma. Yes it's management but we aren't talking about budgies or cattle, we are talking about a giraffe, something to be marveled. If there was any way of saving it, it should have been saved. If you'd said to the guys who brought the first giraffes over that one day we'd be killing these healthy animals to feed others they wouldn't have believed you, what's changed? But then again, I understand and accept the reasons it was done. As I said at the beginning, I've killed loads of hares in my time without a thought, it doesn't mean when I see one dying needlessly under my tyre, I don't feel it was a waste. Same applies to this giraffe, what a waste of a healthy animal.

 

I feel sorry for the guys on here who can't see the difference between a cow and a giraffe, it must be an unexciting life seeing everything as one. I had a girlfriend like that, just couldn't understand what the attraction to camping was. I'd say, look at the mountains, the loch, the trees, smell the pine..... She'd be like and? Beauty to her was a pair of shoes. So my sympathy guys, honest, my heart goes out to you. This isn't about an animal losing its life, this is about a giraffe, one of life's most awesome creatures getting killed needlessly. If that makes me sound like an animal lover, your f*****g right I am

f*****g shut up!!....lol

:clapper: my thumbs killing me after writing all that pish

[paulus 26]

 

 

I've read all the comments and I pretty much agree with both sides of the argument. What I find laughable though is some are trying to say if you feel compassion to animals you must be an anti now that line of thought turned on its head is something the antis would come out with. All the hunting guys I know have compassion and respect to animals, it's the way we are. For instance, this morning I ran over a hare I actually found myself crying out NOOOO I thought to myself what a waste, that hare could have died providing entertainment for me and my dog, how barbaric does that sound but it isn't. I've the utmost respect for the hare, I think it's our best mammal. I'd rather see it given a natural chance against my dog than see its life ended under my tyre. Only hunting folk would understand that logic and maybe Gnasher The end result might be the same way, 1 dead hare but the means would have been fairer.

 

As for the giraffe, as I say, I can and agree with most of both sides of the argument. I don't agree with the comments it's like cattle etc getting slaughtered every day. I know it's a life at the end of the day but it isn't a normal life, just like the hare, its different. It's the whole zoo dilemma that's the problem. When zoos started out, they'd capture these exotic wild creatures like giraffes, bring them thousands of miles for us to see, we were attracted to them. They brought huge crowds, millions upon millions of people wanted to see them. It was then deemed cruel to take an animal that knew what freedom was and enclose it simply for us to look at and rightly so. So they started breeding them and it didn't seem as bad when you knew the animal didn't know anything different than its enclosure. People still flock in their millions each year to marvel at these majestic creatures. It seems to have gone full circle to the point where ones surplus to requirement can be used to feed other animals. This is where I have a dilemma. Yes it's management but we aren't talking about budgies or cattle, we are talking about a giraffe, something to be marveled. If there was any way of saving it, it should have been saved. If you'd said to the guys who brought the first giraffes over that one day we'd be killing these healthy animals to feed others they wouldn't have believed you, what's changed? But then again, I understand and accept the reasons it was done. As I said at the beginning, I've killed loads of hares in my time without a thought, it doesn't mean when I see one dying needlessly under my tyre, I don't feel it was a waste. Same applies to this giraffe, what a waste of a healthy animal.

 

I feel sorry for the guys on here who can't see the difference between a cow and a giraffe, it must be an unexciting life seeing everything as one. I had a girlfriend like that, just couldn't understand what the attraction to camping was. I'd say, look at the mountains, the loch, the trees, smell the pine..... She'd be like and? Beauty to her was a pair of shoes. So my sympathy guys, honest, my heart goes out to you. This isn't about an animal losing its life, this is about a giraffe, one of life's most awesome creatures getting killed needlessly. If that makes me sound like an animal lover, your f*****g right I am

f*****g shut up!!....lol

:clapper: my thumbs killing me after writing all that pish

 

how and more to the point why the fook are you typing with your thumb i understand your all close up there but..............................

[baw 4,360]

On the iPhone, what finger do you use lol. I was thinking..... Has anyone seen this giraffes nose, maybe that was the reason

[paulus 26]

On the iPhone, what finger do you use lol. I was thinking..... Has anyone seen this giraffes nose, maybe that was the reason

no,,,,,,,,,,,,,it only ever had one home

[baw 4,360]

 

 

On the iPhone, what finger do you use lol. I was thinking..... Has anyone seen this giraffes nose, maybe that was the reason

no,,,,,,,,,,,,,it only ever had one home

[Bosun11 537]

I've read all the comments and I pretty much agree with both sides of the argument. What I find laughable though is some are trying to say if you feel compassion to animals you must be an anti now that line of thought turned on its head is something the antis would come out with. All the hunting guys I know have compassion and respect to animals, it's the way we are. For instance, this morning I ran over a hare I actually found myself crying out NOOOO I thought to myself what a waste, that hare could have died providing entertainment for me and my dog, how barbaric does that sound but it isn't. I've the utmost respect for the hare, I think it's our best mammal. I'd rather see it given a natural chance against my dog than see its life ended under my tyre. Only hunting folk would understand that logic and maybe Gnasher The end result might be the same way, 1 dead hare but the means would have been fairer.

 

As for the giraffe, as I say, I can and agree with most of both sides of the argument. I don't agree with the comments it's like cattle etc getting slaughtered every day. I know it's a life at the end of the day but it isn't a normal life, just like the hare, its different. It's the whole zoo dilemma that's the problem. When zoos started out, they'd capture these exotic wild creatures like giraffes, bring them thousands of miles for us to see, we were attracted to them. They brought huge crowds, millions upon millions of people wanted to see them. It was then deemed cruel to take an animal that knew what freedom was and enclose it simply for us to look at and rightly so. So they started breeding them and it didn't seem as bad when you knew the animal didn't know anything different than its enclosure. People still flock in their millions each year to marvel at these majestic creatures. It seems to have gone full circle to the point where ones surplus to requirement can be used to feed other animals. This is where I have a dilemma. Yes it's management but we aren't talking about budgies or cattle, we are talking about a giraffe, something to be marveled. If there was any way of saving it, it should have been saved. If you'd said to the guys who brought the first giraffes over that one day we'd be killing these healthy animals to feed others they wouldn't have believed you, what's changed? But then again, I understand and accept the reasons it was done. As I said at the beginning, I've killed loads of hares in my time without a thought, it doesn't mean when I see one dying needlessly under my tyre, I don't feel it was a waste. Same applies to this giraffe, what a waste of a healthy animal.

 

I feel sorry for the guys on here who can't see the difference between a cow and a giraffe, it must be an unexciting life seeing everything as one. I had a girlfriend like that, just couldn't understand what the attraction to camping was. I'd say, look at the mountains, the loch, the trees, smell the pine..... She'd be like and? Beauty to her was a pair of shoes. So my sympathy guys, honest, my heart goes out to you. This isn't about an animal losing its life, this is about a giraffe, one of life's most awesome creatures getting killed needlessly. If that makes me sound like an animal lover, your f*****g right I am

Great post Baw...

[Born Hunter 17,783]

Baw, just because some people can rationalise a situation doesn't mean they have no soul. LOL. Do you really think that people like myself don't get the same buzz you do seeing these exotic animals or places? LOL. So, because we get that sense of awe we should ignore sensible stock management and animal husbandry practices and keep them alive regardless?...... "because they're magnificent creatures"........... Isn't that what LACS did/do on their estate with the Red deer?

 

You say the giraffe is 'special' but that's pretty much where your argument ends? I really don't see how the management of a giraffe herd is any different to any other group of livestock? It's not like they're in short supply.....