memorial fund

[ferret15 0]

the royal anglians have set up a memorial fund for the family's affected by this war. many of the guys in this clip were good friends of ours and the number of wounded has risen to over 60 as the video say we have had quite a few loss of limbs and server burns but the worst so far in my opinion is the lad who got some shrapnel in his head and has lost the ability to talk he is the farther or two and they doubt he will ever speak again.i cant imagine not being able to tell my child i love them.

please take five minutes to watch this, some of these 'men' were just 18 years old. its such a waste of a life any money donated will be gratefully received

 

i hope no one takes offense to me posting this here i just want to make it known to everybody possible that their is a way to show you care

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6jJ6zqRnIY

 

 

http://www.army.mod.uk/royalanglian/viking...morial_fund.htm

Edited September 25, 2007 by ferret15

[speedlamper 0]

not wanting to sound cruel but havent we already paid to send them there in the first place?

not that they should of gone, they were 18 year olds who had the choice of wether to go,

 

what about the many thousands of innocent afghani civilians who had no choice wether they lived or died, will there be a memorial fund for them?

[ferret15 0]

not wanting to sound cruel but havent we already paid to send them there in the first place?

not that they should of gone, they were 18 year olds who had the choice of wether to go,

 

what about the many thousands of innocent afghani civilians who had no choice wether they lived or died, will there be a memorial fund for them?

 

 

its people like you that make this country not worth fighting for

i dare you to look in to the eyes of these mens children and say you have paid for their farther to die.

 

the Afghan civilians have a choice too they are given the chance to not harbor the talaban but they chose to hide them. these people are terrorists left to their own devices they will be invading our country then you will be saying we should of done something. Iraq is another mater all together (oil) but Afghan is about the fight against terrorists and drugs these guys died trying to stop people growing poppies and selling opium. more than half the wolds opium comes from Afghan.

 

 

do you feel that the taxes you pay equal life ?

 

Afghan is the worst battle to be fought since the Falklands most of the young lad dont expect to find them selves in the conditions they do. even the guys who have been in for years say it is like nothing they have dealt with before (northern Ireland the IRA Iraq or even Afghan five years ago) nothing comes close.

 

the monies raised through this goes to the families left behind to the women who had no choice who they fell in love with and to the kids who didn't chose to be born in to this way of life to the mums and dads who loved their kids enough to let them make their own choices in life.

as a small token of our gratitude for their unselfish sacrifice of life no amount of money will bring back these lads and it wont make their deaths right but its a way to show we care

you obviously haven't an ounce of compassion in you and it is you i feel sorry for, as you will never know the true meaning of compassion and i hope YOU are never in need of it

[mole catcher 1]

get in contact with the MOD and complain that the payments made by this govenment, that we as a nation ellected are paying, dont come anywhere near to paying for the loss of loved ones. see if they listen.

 

untill then i think your pleas will fall on death ears

[ferret15 0]

well I'm glad to say there are plenty of people in this world that have compassion for fellow human beings.

 

go back to your little lives where the reality of your world stretches as far as a broken toe in your dog (plenty of compassion for that ) if half of you saw and dealt with what these men do and had to watch your children cry them selves to sleep every night because their daddy's never coming home and their too young to understand.

you would be broken people

but its all OK because you pay your taxes !

 

 

the government are well aware that the payments made are not enough. their are to be a lot of changes in the next few years to reflect this.

but this is of no help to the people who are affected now ! which is why they have set up this fund.

 

we all have different opinions on life if we didn't this world would be a boring place, but i am saddened to see you hold the value of human life so lowly maybe this is why this country is going down hill so fast no one gives a f**k about any one but themselves

[speedlamper 0]

WAKEY WAKEY FERRET!!!!!!

 

you talk about compassion for human beings there are thousands of innocent people who just want to get on with there lifes who dont support the taliban having bombs dropped on them by the people who have a choice that made there decision when they signed up to support this corrupt goverment, when are you gonna realise the taliban had f**k all to do with the terrorist attacks on this country and america THEY WERE ORCHASTRATED BY THIS GOVERMENT AND THE AMERICAN GOVERMENT

and yes it is to do with oil, funny how the war started after the taliban said no to a oil pipeline running through there country, oh and by the way who was it that put the taliban in power and gave them there weapons, yes the british and american goverment and yes it was paid for with our taxes!

 

i feel for everyone of the soldiers and there familys but they are doin what there paid to do!

 

nd as for people like me making this country not worth fighting for you got that the wrong way round, its the selfish people like you who only give a shit because its someone they know, would you of posted

wht you did originaly did if you hadnt known of any of the lost soldiers.... i dont think so!!!

 

get yourself educated on the subject watch a few documentrys, find out for yourself what these wars are REALLY about and stop watching the bbc news because its corrupt to!!!

 

all the best

mike.

[Irish Lurcher 1,013]

I know this is a delicate issue and I don’t want to sound cruel, but it’s a war them guys are in and as in any other war we have victims, on both sides, and its only natural to seek help for the side we know, but I feel this war has lost its people appeal, we are sick of the hurt inflicted on innocent victims who are caught up in this war that was brought about by both the yanks and brits.

 

We have had unrest in my own country for many a long year and god only knows how we have suffered, but we were fighting for a cause, why are these young British lads dying in far away lands, greed.

 

I offer my heart felt sympathies to the families who have lost their fathers to this tragic war, but please don’t try tell us its their country that they are fighting for, its bush who they represent on the battle field.

 

 

 

My humble and honest opinion.

[mole catcher 1]

you want to talk to me about not seeing the hurt caused to solders on their return from their postings? i live in fecking east anglia, i live no more than a stones throw from their Base. I have mates who are serving with the royal anglians as we speak. as for telling us to go back to our silly little lives where the reality stretchs no further than our dogs broken toe, i have one thing to say to you.

 

STOP SHOUTING THE f*****g ODDS ABOUT A f*****g WAR THAT HAS AND WILL CLAIM MANY MORE LIVES BEFORE THE POLITICIANS DECIDE WE AS A NATION HAVE HAD ENOUGH.

THIS IS THE SECOND THREAD YOU HAVE POSTED ABOUT THIS BLOODY WAR AND THE SECOND TIME YOU HAVE PLAYED THE GUILT AND CONSCIENCE CARD. YOU SAY YOU ARE SADDEND TO SEE THAT WE HOLD THE VALUE OF HUMAN LIFE SO LOW, I PLACE THE VALUE OF A PERSONS LIFE FAR HIGHER THAN THE POWERS THAT SEND THESE BRAVE YOUNG MEN AND WOMAN TO FIGHT.

 

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY MOST ON HERE HAVE MORE COMPASSION FOR THEIR DOGS BROKEN TOE?

 

BECAUSE ITS A f*****g HUNTING WEB SITE, NOT A POLITICAL STAGE TO DRUM UP SUPPORT FOR THE f****d UP AFTER EFFECTS OF A WAR FOUGHT BECAUSE OF FINACUAL GAIN, BE IT OURS OR ANYONE ELSES.

 

if my words are too strong it is because i, as a human being with emotions find this theater of lies and miss truths about why our forces are there a little bit hard to swollow. if we as a nation, or rather the govening powers feel so strongly about ridding the world of tyrants and saving the world you have to ask yourself one question. why is Mogarby still in power? Answer, because his county has nothing of any wealth or use to us, so the suffering continues.

 

WHY AM I GETTING SO UPSET? because each and every time im reminded about british troops serving abroad im reminded of the fact a close and dear friend of mine was killed in the first gulf war. was it his fault that he wasnt able to do his job right all those years ago? was it his fault that because the world was sick of seeing images of war that this govenment or ours pulled out before the job was finished? and is it his fault that the govenment of this country has choosen to do it all again now and waste more young lives?

No it wasnt, but it was his choice to go and fight.

[ferret15 0]

mole catcher you have me all wrong ''I PLACE THE VALUE OF A PERSONS LIFE FAR HIGHER THAN THE POWERS THAT SEND THESE BRAVE YOUNG MEN AND WOMAN TO FIGHT.'' I agree 100% but they are fighting and need our support.

i did not start this thread as a debate as to weather or not we should be there, or for a debate as to why we are there.

the fact remains that men that joined the army to server their country are dieing and there are women and children left to cope .

I'm not arguing that they didn't know what they were doing when they joined.

this is about the women children that get left behind.

i personally hate the army, i hate my husband being in so much danger so far away from me and his son that was only three months old when he left i hate speaking to him on the phone knowing it could be the last time i ever hear his voice.

 

i dont support the war and neither dose he

i dont watch the news as i cant handle hearing another has died not knowing if its him or someone we know breathing a sigh of relief and then thinking of the family it has affected feeling and guilty for being relived its not him there are a few people on here that know that i care deeply about all life and even more so about the pain the people left behind have to deal with.

 

this was never meant to be about the f*****g WAR its about helping the people that will go on suffering long after it has ended who are given six months to move out of their quarters away from the friends they have made within the army their lives changed totally for something they would rather have nothing to do with.

 

more than 90% of the stuff posted in general chat has nothing to do with hunting so why are you so pissed of because i have posted 2 things about something that affects my every moment. why shouldn't i try to raise support, in any way shape or form that i can ? if any of the mods felt that my post were inappropriate for this forum they would of removed them.

if you personally dont want to read it then dont its pretty clear in the title what this topic is about !

 

regardless as to why their daddy's died i want these kids to grow up proud of their daddy's they were doing their job and were brave selfless men.

 

i do not know the men who were married with kids only the single lads, but as a mother i can not stand the thought of having to tell my son his dad is dead or to never see my husband again

 

 

as for doing what they are paid to do none of them expect to die its a possibility but so is getting hit by a bus !!

regardless of whatever anyone says i will go on supporting the troops as they deserve our support just because something upsets me I'm not going pretend its not happening i will carry on no matter how much it upsets me.

once again this is not about the WAR its about showing the women and kids that their husbands wont be forgotten and that we feel for them.

 

I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANYONE GUILTY ABOUT ANYTHING I JUST WANT THE WIVES , KIDS, MUMS AND DADS TO KNOW WE ARE PROUD OF THEIR BRAVERY AND THAT THEY ARE NOT ALONE IN THEIR TIME OF NEED !

[Simoman 110]

A terrible situation that we need to withdraw our troops form ASAP............ I feel for all the servicemen injured or killed in this war, aswell as the innocent locals.........

[mole catcher 1]

FERRET15, im sorry,

 

 

Sadly the nation wont or doesnt realy think about the solders families because were to involved with our own lives. IT IS VERY COMMENDERBLE what you are doing, trying to raise public support for the familys whose lives have been affected by this and other wars. I can only say whats in my thoughts, and yes the solders who are there, or who were there and those who wont be coming back from there are all hero's in my book. So are people like yourself, in your own way you are also a vctim of this war, or more to the point, a victim of the fact your husbands in the army.

OF COURSE, I AS MANY OTHERS, WISH EVERYONE TO RETURN SAFELY BACK TO THOSE WHO LOVE THEM. sadly its decisions like these that are out of our hands. I agree, we should do more for solders affected by what they have seen or have had to do for queen and country. But why is it left to us and not the govenment? ok, it was on the news that those serving in the gulf or the afgan will now recieve a councel tax rebate of 150pounds, big fecking deal. This seems a poltry ammount for what some have to indure on there return to civie street.

 

I can only apoligise for any upset i may have caused you in a time which must be very stressfull. My rantings wernt aimed at you directly, more at the shity state of things. Im a believer that if our politicians did what they are in place to do, to mediate and brocker for peace yours and many others husbands wouldnt be in harms way. Perhaps i voiced my opinions too loudly, perhaps i voiced them in the wrong way and perhaps my opinions wernt asked for but, they are still my opinions.

 

I can only ask you to except this apology in the sincerity that it was typed, and to wish you and others loved ones a safe return to a normal life away from the army.

[gaz 284]

I feel for you lass as you are caught up in all this with yer fella being abroad and risking his life for the war against terrosim ,but as the old saying goes "you can fool some people sometimes but you cant fool all the people all the time " this is not ment to sound harsh......but the facts are there for not just active political intrested folk to see,this war is being fought for all the wrong reasons........greed,greed and more fecking greed.

 

Everybody and their dogs know it now,most including myself way back at the begining knew it,if iraq had no oil and afghanistan didnt stand in the way of piping the stuff then the yanks and our coward,spineless government wouldnt gived a flying feck about how many kurds were being massacred by saddam,how many beatings and tourtures were being carried out by the taliban and saddam and as for opium being grown by he taliban,both have knew this way back when they were the good guys,so that one dosen't stick either.

 

But this is a sad state of affairs now as were now bogged down in both countries,making lifes in both countries far more horrible than they were before under a dictatorship.....so what does that say about us and fecking democracy...........so as history played out this card before not so long ago in vietnam,people back home want to distance themselves from the men in powers wars,the bottom line is most people have no pride in this war were thousands of innocent people are being wasted every other week for lies and greed and that includes the brave young men and women who are sent out by our so called leaders to fight for their lies,no dont be mistaken here lass,most including myself are proud of your brave fella and his buddies out there doing their bit,its just what their fighting for that is hard for people to swallow,i sincerly feel for you and anybody else who has family in the army at present but i just wish they were fighting for a worthy cause thats all

[speedlamper 0]

i'll give it till christmas and they'll be in iran!

[ferret15 0]

FERRET15, im sorry,

 

 

Sadly the nation wont or doesnt realy think about the solders families because were to involved with our own lives. IT IS VERY COMMENDERBLE what you are doing, trying to raise public support for the familys whose lives have been affected by this and other wars. I can only say whats in my thoughts, and yes the solders who are there, or who were there and those who wont be coming back from there are all hero's in my book. So are people like yourself, in your own way you are also a vctim of this war, or more to the point, a victim of the fact your husbands in the army.

OF COURSE, I AS MANY OTHERS, WISH EVERYONE TO RETURN SAFELY BACK TO THOSE WHO LOVE THEM. sadly its decisions like these that are out of our hands. I agree, we should do more for solders affected by what they have seen or have had to do for queen and country. But why is it left to us and not the govenment? ok, it was on the news that those serving in the gulf or the afgan will now recieve a councel tax rebate of 150pounds, big fecking deal. This seems a poltry ammount for what some have to indure on there return to civie street.

 

I can only apoligise for any upset i may have caused you in a time which must be very stressfull. My rantings wernt aimed at you directly, more at the shity state of things. Im a believer that if our politicians did what they are in place to do, to mediate and brocker for peace yours and many others husbands wouldnt be in harms way. Perhaps i voiced my opinions too loudly, perhaps i voiced them in the wrong way and perhaps my opinions wernt asked for but, they are still my opinions.

 

I can only ask you to except this apology in the sincerity that it was typed, and to wish you and others loved ones a safe return to a normal life away from the army.

 

 

mole catcher thank you for your apology, i to am sorry if i said anything that offended you in my response.

with any luck my Hubie will be home in Oct then i can breath easy again. Until next time

 

the memorial fund is growing fast even the serving guys in Afghan are doing things like pay for the privilege to keep the hair they have grow in 6 months in the desert

and he wishes to remain name less but an ex service man has pledged £12000

Edited September 27, 2007 by ferret15