Strains

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Jeemes .your inbox is full

[Hot Meat 3,109]

any rules of thumb to try and breed to or not do whilst trying to start a strain/line?

[AXUM 255]

pit dog breeders are some of the most knowledgable when it comes to line breeding..

[rob284 1,682]

Foxdropper you do amuse me! i wonder why you resort to that talk is it because you cant go into to deep because you dont have the knowlegde? can you tell me about dominant and reccesive genes? and can you explain why inbreeding is wrong again?

you ask a questions, someone corrects you on your wording and you kick a fuss. get it in your head, inbreeding and linebreeding are 2 different things. inbreeding is father to daughter or mother to son. line should by rule be, grand father to daughter or grandmother to son. i dont think they need to talk about dominant and reccessive genes you learn in the yr 9 high school curricular as it is irrelevant as you cant possibly know what genes you have, other than looks. if you aint happy with that answer and wont accept if go piss off because thats how it is.

[legacy2013 52]

AAAAnd were off!!!

[fredofrog 9]

No what i said was a strain of terriers which has to be closely inbred to produce consistent workers or whatever traits you want. It is not me who is getting confused between linebreeding and inbreeding foxdropper has pmd me saying that linebreeding is controlled inbreeding. which is totally wrong as you say inbreeding is closer matings i.e father daughter which was what i was saying does anybody do and how have they got on? ken gould said to a mate of mine that you cant go too close he was on about generation after generation of close inbreeding and he produce the base stock to most black dogs that work.

[fredofrog 9]

AAAAnd were off!!!

i was hoping this was going to be a discussion on peoples opinion but because i dont agree with foxdroppers opinion im a thick know all. Its a shame it cant be discussed politely!!

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

I said i was done here but this fool is winding me up .Inbreeding is the mating of ANY related animals.Line breeding is the controlled version of this . Father to daughter is the base start line .what you do thereafter is down to to what your aims are .

Your origin of the black dog is a few decades out too.Probably down to your age and those you look up to.

[legacy2013 52]

Well what was the reason you were asking just curious to no if you have any experiance on this topic??

[Hot Meat 3,109]

can mother son be used instead of father daughter to get a base? would it matter?

[fredofrog 9]

can mother son be used instead of father daughter to get a base? would it matter?

no it doesnt matter

[legacy2013 52]

I take it by your last post you do have experiance of it fredofrog??

[fredofrog 9]

yes mate but was trying to have a discussion about what other people do i didnt want to start arguing with anybody was not point of thread and was interested in fdroppers opinion but it has to become patronising and insulting.

[legacy2013 52]

Well why not let people no how you've done it and the results you've had and then people may not be so quick to judge, Maybe some pics aswell?? I'm not having a go

[fredofrog 9]

I said i was done here but this fool is winding me up .Inbreeding is the mating of ANY related animals.Line breeding is the controlled version of this . Father to daughter is the base start line .what you do thereafter is down to to what your aims are .

Your origin of the black dog is a few decades out too.Probably down to your age and those you look up to.

Fool another insult you do not act your age mate and you should learn to have a disccusion rather shouting insults like a moron. Did i say ken gould was the origin of the black dog i said he had a massive influence on the black dog. And with anything like the breeding of game fowl or game dogs the most consistent producers of working stock inbreed there stock again and again. line breeding as rob said is not as close as inbreeding the stock are not as closely related.