roybo 2,873 Posted March 22, 2014 Report Share Posted March 22, 2014 I did say MOST staff are no longer work.I also said most terriers will work to a degree. But if there is dogs or crosses, better, I dare say there plenty that will Bush but I dare say that can be said about loads of breeds I'd sooner go for something with a history of hunting,terriers hound spaniel etc..why make life any harder than it needs to be. 1 Quote Link to post
Bazil brush 474 Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 These are cheap anoth and worth a punt http://m.preloved.co.uk/m/showadvert/110390559/staff-x-springer-spaniel-puppies.html Quote Link to post
sounder79 80 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 i think a staff and springer bred back to a full springer or a leggy terrier would be the way to go, a dash of bull is enough to add the fire.we had a mongrel mixed of whippet,pitbull,pointer x springer,turned out to be a good dog to hunt a fox Quote Link to post
spec 45 Posted March 24, 2014 Report Share Posted March 24, 2014 the only staff x springers I've seen have been pet bred nutjobs, so it's hard to say much about their working ability from it, but judging by them and photos online they seem to all get staff-like smooth short coats, rather than a bit more hair/more durable like a spaniel. I'd worry that they wouldn't be as keen on cover, and would rather put some hound blood in. 1 Quote Link to post
lennythetip 5 Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 I'd give one a go. Got a Lakeland Springer first cross here and it's turned out very useful. I would like to find such a cross or similar to put to her. I'd give one a go. Got a Lakeland Springer first cross here and it's turned out very useful. I would like to find such a cross or similar to put to her. I've got a threequarter Beagle x Quarter Lakeland, hell of a dog on old Reynard. 1 Quote Link to post
roybo 2,873 Posted March 26, 2014 Report Share Posted March 26, 2014 I've got patterdale x cocker cracking busher,but unless the staff had something special about it I'd use a working type terrier or hound over a spaniel tbh Not anti staff btw I think they are cracking dogs but can they out hunt a hunting dog? 2 Quote Link to post
wi11ow 2,657 Posted March 27, 2014 Report Share Posted March 27, 2014 seen some very good bushing staffs BUT one days work layed up for four days is not the best kind of bushing dog you need as said spaniel x terrier or beagle x but when useing the beagle x they will run on Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I like most of the bull/gundog crosses, cant see why they are not more popular, as in other countries they were often the basis for many now-established lines of hunting dog. Quote Link to post
forest of dean redneck 11,543 Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Lab x bull used a lot overseas . Quote Link to post
Tracy Priestnall 83 Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 i would love to see this cross, once almost bred e s s x Irish bull, 15 years ago but the bitch was shy, mousy, didn't fancy shy bull crosses. also didn't fancy fighters, fighting in deep cover over a catch for example. i knew a pair of staff bull x collie that were 17 inch and proper good dogs. if there wasn't a run in bramble they just bore one. i see these as bulldozers that will smash threw cover, little tanks. keep the pups back with the covered ears and good coats. a mix of flushing dog x catch dog, if they are from two good dogs they could be special... Quote Link to post
kyboy44 11 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 well I was having this same idea when I find out about flushing dogs be used to flush fur too the only thing would be most of the game we can run here with dogs would be fox coyote and hogs I would be scared a pure flushing dog would be bad hurt or killed on game like that so I got to thinking what if you x one with staff bulls for size and a strong fighter a dog like that could dive out game for a shot and be able to take care of it self if they were jumped for a fight but I don't know that much about flushing dogs over here they are just used for birds as far as I have seen and the only staff I have seen was one a boy I knew had as a watch dog so if anyone of you all could see something wrong with my thinking let me know or maybe you all could think of a better of a better catch dog to x with a flushing dog since I find out they well go after game I like the idea of a close working dog that could dive out game to the gun it just most of the game we got is fighting game Quote Link to post
MFH ONEDAY 26 Posted August 22, 2015 Report Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Best bushing dog ive worked myself was a springer/ bedlington. Old style beddy, not a dainty show type.Big moorland springer. Was offered a lab/staffie last year. Didnt take it and been wondering about it ever since Edited August 22, 2015 by MFH ONEDAY Quote Link to post
kyboy44 11 Posted August 24, 2015 Report Share Posted August 24, 2015 I have been thinking about it and the only problem I can see is with the staffie after the game was pushed out they mit want to go after and if they run mut it could be hard to keep up with them Quote Link to post
spindolero 1,111 Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Kyboy it's the rougher types that would more likely get hurt, a good bull type would want to tangle with something. Get something that wants to hunt/flush rather than kill if your worried about dogs getting hurt. 1 Quote Link to post
mud 2,044 Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) ............ Edited August 30, 2015 by mud 4 Quote Link to post
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