Joe67 239 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 tryed to reply to a thread other day, after 3-5 attempts trying to post and being returned to forum index ive been blocked from the website, at the moment i am viewing via proxyserver, if i try the "normal" way then i get the following message through firefox The connection has timed outThe server at www.thehuntinglife.com is taking too long to respond. The site could be temporarily unavailable or too busy. Try again in a few moments. If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection. If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that Firefox is permitted to access the Web.my ip is 86.161.45.1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Try turning your router off and back on again.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Try turning your router off and back on again.. A techno-wizard like you and that's the best you have "try turning it off and on again"! PMSL Joe, if that fails, try hitting it with a big hammer. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Try turning your router off and back on again.. A techno-wizard like you and that's the best you have "try turning it off and on again"! PMSL Joe, if that fails, try hitting it with a big hammer. Smart arse! Its likely his ISP issues a dynamic ip address to him every time his router registers on the network and the forum software has picked the one he currently has as a spam/banned one. By turning the router off and on it will re-register on the network and be assigned a different ip address.. Any better? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) I knew what you meant and why (something you in fact taught me in a previous thread), just made me laugh, LOL. Yeah, that's better. I once again have faith in your level of geek-ery! Edited January 30, 2014 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 I knew what you meant and why (something you in fact taught me in a previous thread), just made me laugh, LOL. Yeah, that's better. I once again have faith in your level of geek-ery! Aye turning something off and on again to fix it is one of those old school low tech tricks that sometimes work like the 'giving it a bloody good kicking' method! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joe67 239 Posted January 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 i know i could restart router, problem should still be fixed instead of cutting corners edit: am uploading to vps, so cant restart for a while yet, can you unban please Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Try turning your router off and back on again.. A techno-wizard like you and that's the best you have "try turning it off and on again"! PMSL Joe, if that fails, try hitting it with a big hammer. Smart arse! Its likely his ISP issues a dynamic ip address to him every time his router registers on the network and the forum software has picked the one he currently has as a spam/banned one. By turning the router off and on it will re-register on the network and be assigned a different ip address.. Any better? This only works if the IP pool is only slightly bigger than the customer base meaning that the IPs would be rotated on a regular basis. However it is not economical for an ISP to run their networks like this and usually secure large blocks of IPs and allocate them out on their network in batches of /24 or even /29 addresses to provide say 6 hosted networks using the same IP range they were allocated. With such networks now your IP, if you are dynamic, may change once every few months if at all regardless how many times you switch on/off as it is a more economical use of DHCP than dishing out a new IP every time meaning changes to the spanning tree records. Yes, I am an IP Network engineer. I make Internet for a living. From Ripe I can see the IP address 86.161.45.1 is a BT wholesale IP and is part of a /10 subnet so it has 4,194,302 possible IP hosts on varying numbers of subnets (usually 2 or 4). If the rebot doesn't change your IP address trying running the following (assuming you're on a PC): Start > run > cmd > nslookup www.thehuntinglife.com this should return an IP address of the hunting life site of 72.52.213.96 Now from the same screen run a trace route: type "tracert 72.52.213.96" hit enter. You'll get a list of beautiful network hops with various time in milliseconds pop up. At the side you'll get various IPs of those hops and the network host names such as gblx.net (global Crossing) or liquiweb.com etc. It should reach a point where it says "trace complete". If it doesn't and keeps returning an asterix then the last IP you see from a peering or transit link provider is the one that is not passing the information on to the next hop find the path tot he hosting site for Hunting Life.com. You then need to contact BT who will run through the same traces and should be able to run a trace from your router and also from the gateway IP of your range to the site in order to determine if it is a single IP blockage (naughty boy) or an IP range blockage (routing or recent change of IP ownership). Edit: Corrected spelling as I was in a rush typing this out. Edited January 30, 2014 by hutch6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Try turning your router off and back on again.. A techno-wizard like you and that's the best you have "try turning it off and on again"! PMSL Joe, if that fails, try hitting it with a big hammer. Smart arse! Its likely his ISP issues a dynamic ip address to him every time his router registers on the network and the forum software has picked the one he currently has as a spam/banned one. By turning the router off and on it will re-register on the network and be assigned a different ip address.. Any better? This only works if the IP pool is only slightly bigger than the customer base meaning that the IPs would be rotated on a regular basis. However it is not economical for an ISP to run their networks like this and usually secure large blocks of IPs and allocate them out on their network in batches of /24 or even /29 addresses to provide say 6 hosted networks using the same IP range they were allocated. With such networks now your IP, if you are dynamic, may change once every few months if at all regardless how many times you switch on/off as it is a more economical use of DHCP than dishing out a new IP every time meaning changes to the spanning tree records. Yes, I am an IP Network engineer. I make Internet for a living. From Ripe I can see the IP address 86.161.45.1 is a BT wholesale IP and is part of a /10 subnet so it has 4,194,302 possible IP hosts on varying numbers of subnets (usually 2 or 4). If the rebot doesn't change your IP address trying running the following (assuming you're on a PC): Start > run > cmd > nslookup www.thehuntinglife.com this should return an IP address of the hunting life site of 72.52.213.96 Now from the same screen run a trace route: type "tracert 72.52.213.96" hit enter. You'll get a list of beautiful network hops with various time in milliseconds pop up. At the side you'll get various IPs of those hops and the network host names such as gblx.net (global Crossing) or liquiweb.com etc. It should reach a point where it says "trace complete". If it doesn't and keeps returning an asterix then the last IP you see from a peering or transit link provider is the one that is not passing the information on to the next hop find the path tot he hosting site for Hunting Life.com. You then need to contact BT who will run through the same traces and should be able to run a trace from your router and also from the gateway IP of your range to the site in order to determine if it is a single IP blockage (naughty boy) or an IP range blockage (routing or recent change of IP ownership). Edit: Corrected spelling as I was in a rush typing this out. in other words keep of the porn sites Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Way over my head Hutch, but if he could get on before and can't now it stands that his IP Address has changed.. Turning the router off and on works for most of the members in his situation.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Way over my head Hutch, but if he could get on before and can't now it stands that his IP Address has changed.. Turning the router off and on works for most of the members in his situation.. There are multiple reasons why a switch on and off could fix it and a multitude of reasons why an information request fails on the web. It's a very dynamic environment with things changing all of the time and a massive amount of route recording to be altered etc (luckily the big routers and switches do it all automatically) but the element of human coding causes some real headaches. Stale sessions is a big issue and doing a reboot will force a new session to be created depending the expiry time of a session request (ARP) (there is a shed load of stuff that happens on a reboot and even more when you request a website) and you don't realise just how much stuff you're relying on in order to send/receive information over the web. If you have a spare couple of hours one day I'll take you through how you get a website up on your PC when you select the URL of the site. If you have a spare day I can add on how you get an IP Address. In five days I have you understanding how a network works, basic internet protocols, spanning tree, cost path calculating, loop testing. traffic managing by class and priority and a few other stuff that takes about a day to set up and about 1/10,000,000th of a second for your computer, router and switches etc to carry out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Hutch, all that shite is for people like you to worry about mate! All I do is try to suggest tried and tested work around's to problems. I don't know the exact molecular changes that take place as water heats up and starts turning to steam either but I know how to turn a kettle on! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Hutch why does my broadban keep losing connection for couple hours sometimes its post office provider had different routers from them phone works ok had engineers out saying nothing wrong with it lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Does it happen at certain times of day? What do you do to resolve the issue? Call them or do something yourself or just wait? What programmes do you have running in the background i.e P2P, news groups etc? On your PC in the bottom right corner do you get a yellow exclamation mark over your connection status? On your router you will have a series of lights, what status are those lights when you lose connection? I don't know if the Post Office network is a reseller network i.e. branded by Post Office but hosted through a wholesaler like BT so I don't know their setup. If they run their network on PPPoE or PPPoA it could be a faulty port in the exchange and an ISAM/DSLAM reboot or just a SHUB reboot could solve the issue but this will need to be done out of hours usually (1am - 5am). If they are a reseller on a BT wholesale package it might be an authentication issue. If that's the case the Post Office can give you some test logins for the BT network to try and see if you get authentication on the BT network - it'l be soemthing like test_BT@postoffice.com or similar. Edited January 30, 2014 by hutch6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hutch6 550 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Hutch, all that shite is for people like you to worry about mate! All I do is try to suggest tried and tested work around's to problems. I don't know the exact molecular changes that take place as water heats up and starts turning to steam either but I know how to turn a kettle on! What happens if the kettle won't heat up though? - hundreds of processes to get the juice to the kettle and get the water in the kettle in the first place which works in a similar way to a network. They're the bits I like. Just switching stuff on is the end product. I guess that's why people are a bit shocked when they ask "What's the best bit about where you live?" and I reply "The water pressure". I love my shower as you basically have to peel yourself off the opposite wall. It's like getting washed under a nice warm water cannon and that's without a draw-off pump attached as well :D :D It's the little things and all that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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