B.P.R 2,798 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 It wont pass on an std if you dont go passing it about? ... Its natural... its free (after initial op) ....... Otherwise what? ... jill jab... then she comes back in season... money down the drain... chemicals in the ferrets body... Implant... more money once every 18months or so... more vets... Only other thing i an see similar cost effectiveness to a vasectomised hob is to get the jill spayed... 100+... And thats got a huge risk of adrenal desease.... A natural mating...surely...is the best option all round... The human race is too quick to replace nature with chemicals..... They done just fine before we messed about with them... im sure they will continue to do just fine ... Quote Link to post
mhopton 807 Posted January 31, 2014 Report Share Posted January 31, 2014 On 31/01/2014 at 20:17, Leeview said: On 31/01/2014 at 15:29, B.P.R said: How anybody can say 'robbing cnuts' ...at 70quid for a vasectomy....When a jill jab...that might not work...and needs repeating...Is only half that....Is beyond me...BPR a jill mated with a vasectomised hob will come back in season after 6 weeks its nature,plus its not unknown for a vasectomised hob to pass on STD to a jill or even pyometria through being repeatedly mated.Is this really a good method? only plus I can see is there wont be any kitsY.I.S Leeview On 31/01/2014 at 20:17, Leeview said: On 31/01/2014 at 15:29, B.P.R said: How anybody can say 'robbing cnuts' ...at 70quid for a vasectomy....When a jill jab...that might not work...and needs repeating...Is only half that....Is beyond me...BPR a jill mated with a vasectomised hob will come back in season after 6 weeks its nature,plus its not unknown for a vasectomised hob to pass on STD to a jill or even pyometria through being repeatedly mated.Is this really a good method? only plus I can see is there wont be any kitsY.I.S Leeview are you see why I got the jab for my Jill is I work away and on Sunday night when I left my mates and got home all my ferrets live together 3 jills 1 hob one Jill was starting to swell and I was setting of for work at 3 in morning and never had time to sort something out it was 10.50 a jab for the snip 82.50 and his knackers of was 62.25 that's at castles vets bishop Auckland and Barnard castle Quote Link to post
The one 8,514 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 You need to think carefully about what you do the jill jab if used repeatedly will cause hard lumps under the injection site and do you want your jill pumped full of chemicals two three times a year ?. a snipped hobs fine if you have a few jills problem comes if you lend him out and he gets a STD , then every snipped hob ive had has developed testicular cancer later in life and needed his nuts removed 1 Quote Link to post
GreyRake 108 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 My jill had a change of character and didn't shed her winter coat last year after the jab so I have my suspicions about it. She came back into season three months later. There's pros and cons to all the methods dealing with a jills season. Quote Link to post
pie-eater 377 Posted February 1, 2014 Report Share Posted February 1, 2014 (edited) I sometimes wonder if keeping 3 or 4 castrated hobs and no jills is the way forward. I use a snipped hob as said which I believe is the best option but its not perfect. What realy bugs me is when the jills go all mothery and keep dragging each other back to the nest. Also no matter how much bedding mine had last year they dragged every bit of wood shaving out of the crap corner and into the sleeping compartment as soon as I puut it in there. Last year I was woken up about 3am I could hear ferret screaming. I ran down to see what was happening and found the snipped hob was mating a jill while another jill was trying to drag her back to the nest. Edited February 1, 2014 by pie-eater Quote Link to post
OldhamLad 66 Posted February 2, 2014 Report Share Posted February 2, 2014 My ferreting mate is a vet so next to nothing 1 Quote Link to post
Nick3439 83 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) On 01/02/2014 at 18:16, pie-eater said: I sometimes wonder if keeping 3 or 4 castrated hobs and no jills is the way forward. I use a snipped hob as said which I believe is the best option but its not perfect. What realy bugs me is when the jills go all mothery and keep dragging each other back to the nest. Also no matter how much bedding mine had last year they dragged every bit of wood shaving out of the crap corner and into the sleeping compartment as soon as I puut it in there. Last year I was woken up about 3am I could hear ferret screaming. I ran down to see what was happening and found the snipped hob was mating a jill while another jill was trying to drag her back to the nest. When I was younger I only kept two castrated hobs cos I didn't think I could deal with the grief of a Jill; regardless of the benefit, after a 10 year break from ferrets, I picked up 2 again and got a hob and a Jill, the Jill seems more able at ferreting (however the hob is no bad either) but I do think a hob is similar. Get him snipped, watch his weight, simples. The Jill seems far livelier which makes her better for working but did take her longer to handle; and the little f$cker skulks in the holes and it really p#sses me off! Oh and the vet told me that castrating a hob also carries a risk of adrenal gland disease.. Edited February 3, 2014 by Nick3439 Quote Link to post
pie-eater 377 Posted February 3, 2014 Report Share Posted February 3, 2014 On 03/02/2014 at 08:21, Nick3439 said: On 01/02/2014 at 18:16, pie-eater said: I sometimes wonder if keeping 3 or 4 castrated hobs and no jills is the way forward. I use a snipped hob as said which I believe is the best option but its not perfect. What realy bugs me is when the jills go all mothery and keep dragging each other back to the nest. Also no matter how much bedding mine had last year they dragged every bit of wood shaving out of the crap corner and into the sleeping compartment as soon as I puut it in there. Last year I was woken up about 3am I could hear ferret screaming. I ran down to see what was happening and found the snipped hob was mating a jill while another jill was trying to drag her back to the nest. When I was younger I only kept two castrated hobs cos I didn't think I could deal with the grief of a Jill; regardless of the benefit, after a 10 year break from ferrets, I picked up 2 again and got a hob and a Jill, the Jill seems more able at ferreting (however the hob is no bad either) but I do think a hob is similar. Get him snipped, watch his weight, simples. The Jill seems far livelier which makes her better for working but did take her longer to handle; and the little f$cker skulks in the holes and it really p#sses me off! Oh and the vet told me that castrating a hob also carries a risk of adrenal gland disease.. I prefer working hobs to jills. If a hob could pass through a purse net and didnt lose interest in working early and late in the season Id probably only keep hobs. Quote Link to post
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