DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 My pup did the same at about 15 weeks old. After some really good advice I decided not to scruff the little c**t, Instead I put an empty bowl in front of him, then piece by piece put small meaty bits in. He soon learnt to trust me around his food because I didn't take any of his food away!! I understand now that dogs are more aggressive over bones because they cannot quickly be gulped down, so there worth fighting for in their eyes.... With that trust now in place he allows me to take anything away from him, because he knows he will get it back (maybe moving him to his crate to finish his bone!)... I understand they learn this growly behaviour when feeding with their litter mates....As a litter mate would soon steal their food! As soon as the dog realises that your not going to steal his grub he has no need to growl/snap out at you..... This was with a young pup.....It worked for me... All credit to skycat..... 5 Quote Link to post
rob284 1,682 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 not to worried about it, am sure it will get sorted. first dog and ive alot to learn, thats the good thing about these forums for someone like me, can learn alot and theres always some good c**ts willing to point in right direction.. like when i started out ferreting, why i donate £5,where else can you get so much information/help for free. thanks give it a leg again, you need to be in the same situation so you can sort it out. Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 pin the f****r till it lies down and stops fighting, even if it shits and pisses itself and screams its head off, it has to submitt and back down, don't let it up before it does that exactly and then take the bone off it constantly and never back down to them 1 Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 My pup did the same at about 15 weeks old. After some really good advice I decided not to scruff the little c**t, Instead I put an empty bowl in front of him, then piece by piece put small meaty bits in. He soon learnt to trust me around his food because I didn't take any of his food away!! I understand now that dogs are more aggressive over bones because they cannot quickly be gulped down, so there worth fighting for in their eyes.... With that trust now in place he allows me to take anything away from him, because he knows he will get it back (maybe moving him to his crate to finish his bone!)... I understand they learn this growly behaviour when feeding with their litter mates....As a litter mate would soon steal their food! As soon as the dog realises that your not going to steal his grub he has no need to growl/snap out at you..... This was with a young pup.....It worked for me... All credit to skycat..... might trust you but others not so much? hope it did work tho Quote Link to post
stevensansom 144 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Kick the shit out the f****r that could of bin a little kid 1 Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 pin the f****r till it lies down and stops fighting, even if it shits and pisses itself and screams its head off, it has to submitt and back down, don't let it up before it does that exactly and then take the bone off it constantly and never back down to them FFS Pat its a 4 month old pup !! A little scruffing should suffice with the strongest willed 4 month old pup. 2 Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 And joe I think your making the situation sound a lot worse "nearly lost a finger !!" What x is it croc x alligator. 1 Quote Link to post
DeerhoundLurcherMan 997 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 My pup did the same at about 15 weeks old. After some really good advice I decided not to scruff the little c**t, Instead I put an empty bowl in front of him, then piece by piece put small meaty bits in. He soon learnt to trust me around his food because I didn't take any of his food away!! I understand now that dogs are more aggressive over bones because they cannot quickly be gulped down, so there worth fighting for in their eyes.... With that trust now in place he allows me to take anything away from him, because he knows he will get it back (maybe moving him to his crate to finish his bone!)... I understand they learn this growly behaviour when feeding with their litter mates....As a litter mate would soon steal their food! As soon as the dog realises that your not going to steal his grub he has no need to growl/snap out at you..... This was with a young pup.....It worked for me... All credit to skycat..... might trust you but others not so much? hope it did work tho Probably not, that's why I'm the only one who feeds my dogs once everyone has gone to bed, and I watch over them while they eat. When the pup gets bones, he goes in the crate... From my point of view the gaining trust thing worked so well, it seems madness scruffing the dog to break whatever trust you may already have, in fact it sounds like going backwards! This was with a pup though, maybe an older dogs different? 3 Quote Link to post
THLpatrick 555 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 pin the f****r till it lies down and stops fighting, even if it shits and pisses itself and screams its head off, it has to submitt and back down, don't let it up before it does that exactly and then take the bone off it constantly and never back down to them FFS Pat its a 4 month old pup !! A little scruffing should suffice with the strongest willed 4 month old pup. exactly then... so it wouldn't get to that, but im saying some dogs just wont pack it in, didn't no it was 4months but obviously if its submitted then your fineand it most probably 99% will off, but im saying if it didn't so nothing wrong in what i said Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 pin the f****r till it lies down and stops fighting, even if it shits and pisses itself and screams its head off, it has to submitt and back down, don't let it up before it does that exactly and then take the bone off it constantly and never back down to them FFS Pat its a 4 month old pup !! A little scruffing should suffice with the strongest willed 4 month old pup. exactly then... so it wouldn't get to that, but im saying some dogs just wont pack it in, didn't no it was 4months but obviously if its submitted then your fineand it most probably 99% will off, but im saying if it didn't so nothing wrong in what i said Quote Link to post
BIGLURKS 874 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Got too nip it in the bud now till a kid goes near it it could end in tears real quick possive dogs can be a nightmare it could manifest into other problems real quick Quote Link to post
Joe67 239 Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 And joe I think your making the situation sound a lot worse "nearly lost a finger !!" What x is it croc x alligator. haha, ok it could have been a real sore one Quote Link to post
lurcherman887 178 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Beat it with a rake then punch it square in the face if that fails ask mushroom for advice 1 Quote Link to post
RossM 8,119 Posted January 27, 2014 Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Joe I hope you have the sense to realise which posts to take on board and which ones to discard........ A few informative posts but also some f***ing stupid ones......... 4 Quote Link to post
Joe67 239 Posted January 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2014 Joe I hope you have the sense to realise which posts to take on board and which ones to discard........ A few informative posts but also some f*****g stupid ones......... ive to bash its brains in right? all good 2 Quote Link to post
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