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First of all i know very little about birds,i was beating the other day sitting in the motor waiting for a drive to start watching the birds in the trees,goldfinches,chaffinches couple bullfinches,there was a couple of orangey/red birds of similar size to chaffinches when facing away from me they had an orange stripe down there back was just wondering what they could be,didnt get any photos but keepers day this saturday so ill take my camera and hopefully get a pic.

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