twistturn 12 Posted January 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 thanks for coments lad Quote Link to post
dan john 82 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) wood feeding them a rabbit make them harder mouth could that help just a suggestion Edited January 26, 2014 by dan john Quote Link to post
trigger2 3,137 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 wood feeding them a rabbit make them harder mouth could that help just a suggestion ive been out with dogs that get fed on raw rabbits regular and they have been soft mouthed, so i wouldnt have thought so. 1 Quote Link to post
trigger2 3,137 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 dogs doing my head in catching rabbit as they come back to me they put them down and they run of got to catch same rabbit 3 or 4 times wish I could make them a bit harder in mouth takes up a lot of time any ideas my old dog is the same mate hes 9 now and on the odd few occasions i take him out now hes still the same. Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,077 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 would rather have that than a dog that wont let go Quote Link to post
jack68 628 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) I no of a dog that will not hold rabbits or owt it picks up, it drops them and they run off the dog is now coming 3 years old he has tryed everything but the dog justs drops um. It's Sutch a shame the dogs like lightning and can jump owt...atb Edited January 26, 2014 by jack68 Quote Link to post
beast 1,884 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 the bitch is 4 and the other 14 months catching plenty of rabbits had 16 last night they keep putting them down right by me and run of to catch again Are they comfortable in or around your space ,??if 2 of them are at it , it would appear everything is fine in their ability , it's just the connection of the last 3 foot or so, ever disciplined or confronted for jumping up or similar ?? The dog may be having to change its mind set coming into your zone , from feeling predator to feeling prey like due to lack of confidence in that zone, don't think its that or training really, as got 2 dogs here been trained the same way to bring back, and the older dog as always been the same bring them back ,and will put them on the floor by you , so got to get to them quick.lol But the younger dog holds on to them and never looses them, as he don't like to give them to you really lol, but he will stand still with rabbit, its just different temps I think ray mate, you're contradicting yourself! two dogs with different temperaments but trained the same way, course they will respond differently! i have always found it important to alter my methods so they suit different dogs in order to get the same end resault Quote Link to post
beast 1,884 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 twistturn, not trying to sound rude but from what youve said it sounds as though they werent properly trained to retrieve in the first place. i consider the first season of full work for a dog to be really just training, and that includes fine tuning things like retrieving dead bunnies and being exactly where i want them at any point in the training schedule before moving on to the next stage. sound s to me as though both of those dogs were started hunting before the fetch was fully trained. i might have got that wrong, only judging by the information you have given, but if thats the case then you will have to go right back to basics and untrain the bits you dont want, and remodel the retrieve into the way you want it. might be a long task, good luck. Quote Link to post
bird 9,872 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 the bitch is 4 and the other 14 months catching plenty of rabbits had 16 last night they keep putting them down right by me and run of to catch again Are they comfortable in or around your space ,??if 2 of them are at it , it would appear everything is fine in their ability , it's just the connection of the last 3 foot or so, ever disciplined or confronted for jumping up or similar ?? The dog may be having to change its mind set coming into your zone , from feeling predator to feeling prey like due to lack of confidence in that zone, don't think its that or training really, as got 2 dogs here been trained the same way to bring back, and the older dog as always been the same bring them back ,and will put them on the floor by you , so got to get to them quick.lol But the younger dog holds on to them and never looses them, as he don't like to give them to you really lol, but he will stand still with rabbit, its just different temps I think ray mate, you're contradicting yourself! two dogs with different temperaments but trained the same way, course they will respond differently! i have always found it important to alter my methods so they suit different dogs in order to get the same end resault fair point that Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Ive a bitch here that catches in company and runs 2 fields away to drop her catch,thus I prefer to take her out on her own at times.Going back to basics aids some dogs,most are set in their ways.Dogs like this need working on their own to rectify the problem, it may never cure the more resolute mutt.Ratting makes some dogs bite harder,wringing a bunny out before you put it in the bag becomes tedious at times,but a dead bunny seldom escapes,work the dog on bolters and control the catches,then re-lamp. Quote Link to post
twistturn 12 Posted January 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 they hold and no problem out ferreting straight back they are out regular lot of permision Quote Link to post
lurcherlad2014 0 Posted January 26, 2014 Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 it mite be being put off by the other dog or friend whos with you go by yourself and try it that way I had a bitch like that soon stopped her ran her by herself!!!good look mate Quote Link to post
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