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. Yeh and managers Who have had ten years in the prem and won fook all throw the towel in every time the play a top four side , tactical inept dont get good over night either lol

You can't compare when the big man took over to when Moyes took over........the big man had to totally rebuild the club and team, Moyes took over the finished article.

I think it's easy to view Jose as a bit of a media whore but IMHO he is one sharp manager........I don't think he does anything for no good reason. He is up there with the very best, love or hate him

When you have a run like man utd had and gather the fans from afar. Its a bitter pill to swollow mediocrity

I have no beef with man utd Good football is good football i just dont envy your next couple of seasons

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My view of football has always been simple, the league don't lie and it's true.

 

I said this for years when people used to rave about Moyes........what has he done? What has he won?.......and the true answer is not much.......you would describe his record as mediocre.

 

It's not good enough to say if this or that happened we would have won instead of lost........if you score more goals than the other side you win and the better side who are better prepared and mentally and physically stronger, who pass and move better, who defend better and who keep the ball better win

 

Simple as that

 

Mediocre is good enough for 75% of teams in the Prem but for one of the top clubs in the world?......not in my book.

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I've been a Utd fan for as long as I've watched football ( over 30 years), but this is nothing like when Fergie took over, he had a full re build job to do, the club is a different animal now... this year will be a wash out, RVP and Rooney are needed back ASAP... there is no strength in depth, everyone know they haven't made the signings required ( Moyes was let down on that)...

 

The verdicts obviously out now on Moyes, but who should be there? or who could follow Fergie?

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When you have a run like man utd had and gather the fans from afar. Its a bitter pill to swollow mediocrity

I have no beef with man utd Good football is good football i just dont envy your next couple of seasons

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i feel sorry for him in a way because WHEN he gets sacked from utd he aint gonna get work anywhere else!!! utd would of been better giving the likes of robson, hughes, bruce etc the job as at least they have the fans backing from the off and wouldnt be an "outsider" from the off.........if fergie handled the keane affair better then utd would of had a manager in the utd mould ready and waiting!!!!

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I've been a Utd fan for as long as I've watched football ( over 30 years), but this is nothing like when Fergie took over, he had a full re build job to do, the club is a different animal now... this year will be a wash out, RVP and Rooney are needed back ASAP... there is no strength in depth, everyone know they haven't made the signings required ( Moyes was let down on that)...

 

The verdicts obviously out now on Moyes, but who should be there? or who could follow Fergie?

Guardiola or Merinho........manager who player can respect because they have won things with the biggest clubs in the world

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When you have a run like man utd had and gather the fans from afar. Its a bitter pill to swollow mediocrity

I have no beef with man utd Good football is good football i just dont envy your next couple of seasons

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i feel sorry for him in a way because WHEN he gets sacked from utd he aint gonna get work anywhere else!!! utd would of been better giving the likes of robson, hughes, bruce etc the job as at least they have the fans backing from the off and wouldnt be an "outsider" from the off.........if fergie handled the keane affair better then utd would of had a manager in the utd mould ready and waiting!!!!

 

 

Don't think any of them would've done any better mate, Keane especially, loved him as a footballer, but he's not right for management IMO...

 

Ole, may have been the one, he would've kept the back ground staff and added Giggs, Scholes and I reckon Gary Neville into the coaching mix, there wouldv'e been respect through out imo

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I've been a Utd fan for as long as I've watched football ( over 30 years), but this is nothing like when Fergie took over, he had a full re build job to do, the club is a different animal now... this year will be a wash out, RVP and Rooney are needed back ASAP... there is no strength in depth, everyone know they haven't made the signings required ( Moyes was let down on that)...

 

The verdicts obviously out now on Moyes, but who should be there? or who could follow Fergie?

nobody ever will follow fergie.......... moyes is here for another 4 year at least give him a chance ffs

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I've been a Utd fan for as long as I've watched football ( over 30 years), but this is nothing like when Fergie took over, he had a full re build job to do, the club is a different animal now... this year will be a wash out, RVP and Rooney are needed back ASAP... there is no strength in depth, everyone know they haven't made the signings required ( Moyes was let down on that)...

 

The verdicts obviously out now on Moyes, but who should be there? or who could follow Fergie?

Guardiola or Merinho........manager who player can respect because they have won things with the biggest clubs in the world

 

 

Both had made their decisions I think mate, the mistake Moyes made was clearing out all of Fergies background staff, he lost a lot of experience in one hit there

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I've been a Utd fan for as long as I've watched football ( over 30 years), but this is nothing like when Fergie took over, he had a full re build job to do, the club is a different animal now... this year will be a wash out, RVP and Rooney are needed back ASAP... there is no strength in depth, everyone know they haven't made the signings required ( Moyes was let down on that)...

 

The verdicts obviously out now on Moyes, but who should be there? or who could follow Fergie?

nobody ever will follow fergie.......... moyes is here for another 4 year at least give him a chance ffs

 

 

I am giving him a chance mate, I was asking the question who could do anymore...

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My view of football has always been simple, the league don't lie and it's true.

I said this for years when people used to rave about Moyes........what has he done? What has he won?.......and the true answer is not much.......you would describe his record as mediocre.

It's not good enough to say if this or that happened we would have won instead of lost........if you score more goals than the other side you win and the better side who are better prepared and mentally and physically stronger, who pass and move better, who defend better and who keep the ball better win

Simple as that

Mediocre is good enough for 75% of teams in the Prem but for one of the top clubs in the world?......not in my book.

and thats all moyes was , is mediocre untill he proves me wrong.
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I've been a Utd fan for as long as I've watched football ( over 30 years), but this is nothing like when Fergie took over, he had a full re build job to do, the club is a different animal now... this year will be a wash out, RVP and Rooney are needed back ASAP... there is no strength in depth, everyone know they haven't made the signings required ( Moyes was let down on that)...

 

The verdicts obviously out now on Moyes, but who should be there? or who could follow Fergie?

Guardiola or Merinho........manager who player can respect because they have won things with the biggest clubs in the world

 

 

Both had made their decisions I think mate, the mistake Moyes made was clearing out all of Fergies background staff, he lost a lot of experience in one hit there

 

i agree with that mate, it will take him a while to get that much experience behind him again.

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I've been a Utd fan for as long as I've watched football ( over 30 years), but this is nothing like when Fergie took over, he had a full re build job to do, the club is a different animal now... this year will be a wash out, RVP and Rooney are needed back ASAP... there is no strength in depth, everyone know they haven't made the signings required ( Moyes was let down on that)...

 

The verdicts obviously out now on Moyes, but who should be there? or who could follow Fergie?

Guardiola or Merinho........manager who player can respect because they have won things with the biggest clubs in the world

 

 

Both had made their decisions I think mate, the mistake Moyes made was clearing out all of Fergies background staff, he lost a lot of experience in one hit there

 

i agree with that mate, it will take him a while to get that much experience behind him again.

 

 

26 years lol

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When you have a run like man utd had and gather the fans from afar. Its a bitter pill to swollow mediocrity

I have no beef with man utd Good football is good football i just dont envy your next couple of seasons

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i feel sorry for him in a way because WHEN he gets sacked from utd he aint gonna get work anywhere else!!! utd would of been better giving the likes of robson, hughes, bruce etc the job as at least they have the fans backing from the off and wouldnt be an "outsider" from the off.........if fergie handled the keane affair better then utd would of had a manager in the utd mould ready and waiting!!!!

 

 

Don't think any of them would've done any better mate, Keane especially, loved him as a footballer, but he's not right for management IMO...

 

Ole, may have been the one, he would've kept the back ground staff and added Giggs, Scholes and I reckon Gary Neville into the coaching mix, there wouldv'e been respect through out imo

 

they wouldnt do much worse tho mate......... :D tbh im buzzing they signed moyes..... :toast::toast:

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