Hitting Your Jukels

[bunnys 1,228]

 

one would think beating any animal meant to work for thee would be a no no . but times of old breakink then rebuilding the animal was a common occurance.some high driven animals spaniiels etc ,do seem to be able to take a firm approach seen not my cup of tea\ but hey every one to there own .scruffing and pinning would normally be a firm enough hand to the very most driven stubborn lurcher types every ones different and some similiar the aproach to the animals temperament ,sorts the chaff from the wheat .atb bunnys.

unless your there immediately when the indiscretion occurs then chastising of any sort will have a negative effect, it needs to learn by association so clarity is the key,

 

paulus i agree but i see the i was not understood , times of old his the key .atb bunnys.

[paulus 26]

 

 

one would think beating any animal meant to work for thee would be a no no . but times of old breakink then rebuilding the animal was a common occurance.some high driven animals spaniiels etc ,do seem to be able to take a firm approach seen not my cup of tea\ but hey every one to there own .scruffing and pinning would normally be a firm enough hand to the very most driven stubborn lurcher types every ones different and some similiar the aproach to the animals temperament ,sorts the chaff from the wheat .atb bunnys.

unless your there immediately when the indiscretion occurs then chastising of any sort will have a negative effect, it needs to learn by association so clarity is the key,

 

paulus i agree but i see the i was not understood , times of old his the key .atb bunnys.

 

i understood i have witnessed it first hand, but then again its not that long ago feeding ferrets meat was considered wrong with bread sops being championed by the old school

[bunnys 1,228]

 

 

 

one would think beating any animal meant to work for thee would be a no no . but times of old breakink then rebuilding the animal was a common occurance.some high driven animals spaniiels etc ,do seem to be able to take a firm approach seen not my cup of tea\ but hey every one to there own .scruffing and pinning would normally be a firm enough hand to the very most driven stubborn lurcher types every ones different and some similiar the aproach to the animals temperament ,sorts the chaff from the wheat .atb bunnys.

unless your there immediately when the indiscretion occurs then chastising of any sort will have a negative effect, it needs to learn by association so clarity is the key,

 

paulus i agree but i see the i was not understood , times of old his the key .atb bunnys.

 

i understood i have witnessed it first hand, but then again its not that ago feeding ferrets meat was considered wrong with bread sops being championed by the old school

 

yeah get ya meaning but hy different parts the country have different views neva seen bread sops in this town only in the bread and butter pudding and the ferrits aint got achance a that ,lol. but aye any reprimand has to be enforced immediately to nip in ta bud but hey a thought that would be so obvious to any young handler starting out . ITS usually when one comes across a much more strong minded stubborn type , that the handlers classhis put to the test and wild types are still come across occasionally but of course when manned trained they usuallly way above average .atbbunnys.

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

 

one would think beating any animal meant to work for thee would be a no no . but times of old breakink then rebuilding the animal was a common occurance.some high driven animals spaniiels etc ,do seem to be able to take a firm approach seen not my cup of tea\ but hey every one to there own .scruffing and pinning would normally be a firm enough hand to the very most driven stubborn lurcher types every ones different and some similiar the aproach to the animals temperament ,sorts the chaff from the wheat .atb bunnys.

unless your there immediately when the indiscretion occurs then chastising of any sort will have a negative effect, it needs to learn by association so clarity is the key,

 

paulus i agree but i see the i was not understood , times of old his the key .atb bunnys.

 

i understood i have witnessed it first hand, but then again its not that ago feeding ferrets meat was considered wrong with bread sops being championed by the old school

 

yeah get ya meaning but hy different parts the country have different views neva seen bread sops in this town only in the bread and butter pudding and the ferrits aint got achance a that ,lol. but aye any reprimand has to be enforced immediately to nip in ta bud but hey a thought that would be so obvious to any young handler starting out . ITS usually when one comes across a much more strong minded stubborn type , that the handlers classhis put to the test and wild types are still come across occasionally but of course when manned trained they usuallly way above average .atbbunnys.

 

your nurturing the instinct not trying to teach it to suck eggs the dog has imprinted training that just needs controlling to suit what you want to do with it, that's all training a hunting dog really is. i think clever thinking nervy types are far more difficult than thick stubborn types to train

[BIGLURKS 874]

Suppose it depends on the clout ur giving iam prone too walk with a walking stick and if you know ur dog you can tell from its actions on a couple of ocasions a load of lambs will run right past us and you can just see the expression the dog makes like the way it stands and way it's looking like its wanting a go a quick tap on the end of the nose just does the trick so I think it depends on what ur classin as a clout if ur knocking 10 bags of shit out of the dog for not picking up a rabbit then there is something wrong in ur head but a quick tap can solve a lot of issues real quick if you know what too look for just my 2p

[Phil Lloyd 10,738]

I used to be the worlds worst for laying into a jukel...

 

It has taken me a lifetime to twig on to the fact, that,.whilst you must chastise a wayward cur for obvious unwanted or dangerous behaviour,..there is no call for losing your temper..

To do so, is counter -productive and in terms of canine/human interaction,.it is 100% illogical...

I was brought up to 'break' (as opposed to school),..young herders,..( Father and Grandfather schooled Sheepdogs and Cattle Dogs)..and they both used old school methods...ouch..

 

Nowadays,......I rarely lay an angry hand on my mouching curs....

 

I educate them at an early age,.show them what a great life lies ahead and let them see the benefits of listening to me, and following my lead,..and we all get along,... just fine...

Edited January 17, 2014 by Phil Lloyd

[Brigzy 1,298]

No need to EVER hit a dog; and hitting a dog on the nose is probably the worst place you can hit a dog ! The nose is full of nerves, chambers, etc, that can be very easily damaged.

[socks 32,253]

All the dogs I have owned including my terriers have been very obedient ... I demand it from my dogs ?.. I hate unruly dogs that take telling two three four times to do something I like to be able to calmly give a Command and the dog do it no fuss no shouting no screaming and swearing ... Do I need to lay a hand on my dogs to achieve this ... NO ... I spend lots of time with them as puppies building trust and watching what makes them tick watching how they react in different situations and a combination of those factors will allow you to guide the dog to do what you want it to without the dog thinking its being made to do anything ... It's all about cohesion mutual trust and the dog looking to you for leadership ..........

[andy97 209]

ive had to smack my dog once for chasing horses now i only have to shout and does what hes told hes 10month old before i smacked him even if another dog was there hed run off and id be stood there like a cnut shouting my head off and end up walking the other side of the field to get him as said ive only got to raise my voice now and he knows so doesnt do it turning into a brilliant dog see i got him at 9month old so dont know how he wa fetched up but a smack strightend him out my lab never had to raise a finger and does everything ive asked of him had him from a pup its all about knowing the dog one thing i hate in a dog is one that does as he likes and doesnt listen couple of the lads have salukis like this they get a slip then takes them 20mins of running around the field after them to get them back this isnt for me at all people do thins different and this works for me

Edited January 17, 2014 by andy97

[bracken boy 584]

Did it once when dog was one, was it right well if he dosnt do it again then hell yes hes now nearly 12, it worked. i think people who say its not thinks we put them in doggy hospital ffs, nowt wrong with a wee clip, you say its a failure well if the dog dosnt respond again then yeah ok but if the dog learns and still follows his master then win win.

Edited January 17, 2014 by bracken boy

[lurcherman887 178]

I kicked me boot off once hit the bitch in the ribs after that wouldn't come neer me best part the day

[paulus 26]

I kicked me boot off once hit the bitch in the ribs after that wouldn't come neer me best part the day

mine get the arse when i accidentally stand on their feet

[jeppi26 1,855]

No need to smack/kick it just cull it there seems to be afew on here that would .....

[lurcherman887 178]

No need to smack/kick it just cull it there seems to be afew on here that would .....

Yeh heard all that cull talk 2

[paulus 26]

 

No need to smack/kick it just cull it there seems to be afew on here that would .....

Yeh heard all that cull talk 2

 

to cull something because of your own inadequacies in being able to train it would be self perpetuating