Armed Self Defence ~ Ukip .....

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

Discuss?

 

[socks 32,253]

I would be all for it ........

[smithie 2,443]

fact is it would deter some people from breaking in to your house, , but if you break in to my house i have to do what ever it takes to defend my family.. this could result in the burgler getting hurt or worse myself. but the thing is if i had a gun i would be able to defend myself at a distance after giving fare warning without having to get injured in hand to hand combat and who wants to get close to a man with a knife, screwdriver or crowbar etc....

 

i also would be all for it........

[Born Hunter 17,798]

The most common sense piece of legislation on the matter I've ever read for this country!

 

We have the highest rate of violent crime in Europe! And yet the strictest gun laws!

 

IMO the most basic human right is the right to defend yourself, family and property, with minimal risk. It's utterly insane that we cannot at the very least own a tactical shotgun for home defense and have the right to shoot dead any intruder that enters our homes uninvited.

 

If pistols were legalised I'd without doubt be straight to the shops for a 9mm Sig.

 

LIBERTARIANISM!

[twymanc 135]

emmm well how do i put it! its a lose lose situation, if an intruder was to get into your home and threaten the lives of your loved ones you aint gonna just let it happen however if you defend yourself and your family by whatever means necessary youd be looking at a long stretch leaving your wife and kids to fend for themselves, no hubby no daddy and why because you wanted to protect the very thing you trasure the most! messed up!!!

[bracken boy 584]

To be fair whoever is fit and able and dosnt defend his home must be mad, ive got a nice table leg in bedroom waiting. Its a must defend your home.

[Guest scramble]

emmm well how do i put it! its a lose lose situation, if an intruder was to get into your home and threaten the lives of your loved ones you aint gonna just let it happen however if you defend yourself and your family by whatever means necessary youd be looking at a long stretch leaving your wife and kids to fend for themselves, no hubby no daddy and why because you wanted to protect the very thing you trasure the most! messed up!!!

I'd take my chances with the judge having a good day and defend my family by ANY means necessary

[Huan72 687]

The law allows self defence and think of it this way, it was dark, you were scared for your life, you thought that they were there to sexually assault your wife or children. You were defending yourself and family against a man or men that were probably armed

[Born Hunter 17,798]

To be fair whoever is fit and able and dosnt defend his home must be mad, ive got a nice table leg in bedroom waiting. Its a must defend your home.

 

Suppose there are two intruders with a crowbar and a knife? As many burglars would have.

 

You can go at em spitting venom and swinging like a axeman, or you can stand 15 feet away with a .45ACP in perfect safety with the capability to defend your property against much greater odds.

[Outlaw Pete 2,224]

Okay. The Blue word, on my initial post, is actually a live link. Who's actually clicked it and read it ....?

[paulus 26]

anyone who enters another man`s home without invitation with the intention of causing harm or distress should be prepared to pay the ultimate sacrifice

[Nik_B 3,790]

anyone who enters another man`s home without invitation with the intention of causing harm or distress should be prepared to pay the ultimate sacrifice

 

And they will in many circumstances

[Huan72 687]

I did read it and it made sense to me, the handgun ban was a knee jerk reaction at the time, if a criminal wants a gun they will get one, full stop. Also having high gun ownership in a country does not automatically mean a higher gun crime rate. Canada and the USA are prime examples of the differences between possibilities. I think one of the Scandinavian countries allows people to keep a firearm after national service as part of the national defence strategy, although I may be wrong on that

[scothunter 12,609]

link dont work for me,but if its for allowing the public to own and have accessto guns.then im very dissapointed with ukip,and it will cost them votes if true

[Born Hunter 17,798]

It is apparent that UKIP wishes to present itself as representing those concerned with increasing restrictions on freedom, modelling itself as a libertarian alternative to the other Big Government parties. One of the most onerous restrictions in the UK is the overly restrictive legislation regarding legal ownership of weapons and their lawful use in defence of one's self and property. What good is the right to defend yourself when you have no effective means to do so with?

 

In the UK, carrying anything for the purpose of self-defence will result in arrest and prosecution as the item in question, even if not itself designed so, becomes an 'offensive weapon'. Currently the law abiding majority have no means to defend themselves against violent criminals who by their very nature will always arm themselves despite what new laws are put into place. The majority of European countries allow at least some types of personal defence weapon to carried for self defence. only 7 out of 27 EU states prohibit pepper spray, a popular means of self-defence for those at a physical disadvantage. Some countries employ a permit system to allow acquisition upon completion of a criminal background check and in some cases training classes while others simply require the individual to be over the age of 18 to purchase. The suggestions below are open to any means of prohibiting access by criminals and ensuring lawful use only. The aim is to give the vast law-abiding and currently defenceless majority a legal option to have the ability to defend themselves, as is present in almost every other country.

 

Below are some recommended suggestions for inclusion into party policy:

 

- Removal of non-lethal self-defence aids such as defensive pepper sprays, stun guns and pistols designed to fire rubber 'traumatic' projectiles and tear gas cartridges from current firearm legislation or transfered from their current status as 'prohibited weapons' to a new catagory allowing a means of lawful acquistion for the purpose of self-defence.

 

- Repeal the 1997 pistol ban. The UK is one of the only countries in the world to have a practical prohibition, forcing our Olympic pistol team to practice outside their home country. This draconian restriction has not affected gun crime, which rose dramatically in the years following.

 

- Add 'home defence' as a reason for obtaining a firearm certificate, as was the case 50 years ago. Burglars need to know that should they choose to break into another's home, there is a significant risk that the home owner may lawfully and effectively defend themselves and their property.

 

- Remove licence requirements for all muzzleloading firearms such as flintlock muskets. The majority of European countries treat these no different from other obsolete weapons such as crossbows. These are completely ignored by 21st century criminals despite their availability in most countries. Licensing them simply costs resources and puts needless bureaucratic hurdles in the way of those perusing valuable cultural & historical preservation activities such as living history and reenactments.

 

- Restore sentencing power to the courts. The current mandatory minimum 5 year sentence for illegal firearm possession has resulted in people who have innocently come into possession of antiques and souvenirs receiving harsher punishments than violent career criminals. Common sense and proportion should be the main focus of the UK's justice system.