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well thats it havnt got 6-10grand anyway thats why looking at forrester or terano as can pik them up pretty cheap or the vitara or the terrios i dont want it for proper off roading but then again i dont want to hve to ring the farmer to keep coming and pulling me out either

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A crap 4x4??? This a joke? Set of tyres like any jeep needs and you'll not get better. As for comfort I agree.

havnt got defender money mate to put into it looking more like a grand maybe 1200 not 6000

Defender is a crap 4x4. It needs money threw at it to be good off road, even more money threw at it to be COMFORTABLE on road. Then there is extra maintenance and RUST

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Iv e owned a 1.6l petrol vitara a diesel foutrack, Disco td5 , Diesel Freelander and now have an o4 plate swb 2.0l diesel grand Vitara. The 2.0l vitara is the best ive owned. Its better on fuel than all the others is nice and light/reliable and although only the short wheel base version the back seats fold flat and i get all my shooting gear in in.

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i have a 1.6l petrol grand vitara some of my perms i drive over and also across ploughed fields in the tractors tracks of course through muddy water (you know the usual off road stuff)

 

​i haven't got stuck bits of sliding but that's part of the fun

 

the only down side is its a four seater but as someone said you can fold down the seats to get your kit in

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My first 4x4 was the grand vitara,spent £300 getting the sills done, put 2x sunroofs in £40, & £20 of nato green, stuck a set of dakars on it and it is brilliant.With the seats down there is ample room.Never had any problems.

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Defender is a crap 4x4. It needs money threw at it to be good off road, even more money threw at it to be COMFORTABLE on road. Then there is extra maintenance and RUST

A crap 4x4??? This a joke?

Set of tyres like any jeep needs and you'll not get better.

As for comfort I agree.

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Defender is a crap 4x4. It needs money threw at it to be good off road, even more money threw at it to be COMFORTABLE on road. Then there is extra maintenance and RUST

A crap 4x4??? This a joke?

Set of tyres like any jeep needs and you'll not get better.

As for comfort I agree.

Got to agree the defender is the best with a set of good tyres they wernt made for comfort but put a heavy duty clutch, set of bf Goodrich, winch, snorkel, bash plate and they will take you anywhere. But they aren't cheap.

 

Heard good things about the jimny though.

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Defender is a crap 4x4. It needs money threw at it to be good off road, even more money threw at it to be COMFORTABLE on road. Then there is extra maintenance and RUST

A crap 4x4??? This a joke?

Set of tyres like any jeep needs and you'll not get better.

As for comfort I agree.

 

 

i agree with you lab, they are a mighty machine, an agricultural vehicle!! i had one for a couple of years, they do need maintenance when they push on in years but parts are very cheap for them nowadays.

 

i dont think any jeep is a good option if you have a small budget, they all cost good money to keep em going, especially if used as only mode of transport.

 

ive had landcruisers, a pajero(very short time) ford ranger, hiluxs, a defender, now i have a 2.2 crdi 4x4 honda crv and its the dogs bollox. took out back seats and converted to commercial, cheap as a car on fuel, oceans of power to tow and pretty decent off road, obviously not as good as an all out 4x4 but hasnt got bogged on me yet!

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