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Religion was invented by very clever people, to further their own aims and to keep the common people in shackles, and discourage free thinking, all the main patriarch based religions are the best fair

One thing is fact when all looks lost and you have a millisecond to contemplate your life it's not god you think about or cry out for think about redemption from ... What enters your head for that bri

Growing up we was told theres 2 things a man doesnt have to justify......his faith or his football team ............for me only a complete ignoramus would mock another mans beliefs and ask him to jus

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What i would like to know is why these weak people even feel the need to involve a third party in their thoughts,their day to day living and their very being .Cant they make do with running their own lives how they want to live it without it being in the back of their minds. What exactly do they think is showing them the path .Evolution hasnt been kind to this band of weaklings i guess.

They're not weak.They're being manipulated by a religion,or are using it to manipulate others.
The weakness lies with everyone taken in by it mate .They do not recruit by force .Its all willingly accepted by weak people.
Yeah being a Christian here is optional now,and Christianity is dying.With enough conditioning and the right environment you could make a child believe in anything,including Yahweh.
And this is where it all goes wrong for the faithful .Why do you think its necessary to teach a kid religion if its so much part of what you think we are .Surely it would come as naturally as breathing if it were the path we were to follow .

I think you've misinterpreted my post.

 

Or is having faith in the laws of nature wrong?

 

I wouldn't indoctrinate a kid to believe in any god.

 

We're no longer living in an environment thats natural to us,our pre Christian ancestors I believe were more intelligent and intuitive especially as far as nature is concerned,than we are today.

 

Their 'religions' I interpret as symbolic,but I already posted all this.

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The 'big bang' is an absurd concept, the 'theory of evolution' is just that . . . .a theory.

You need as much faith to believe 'science, as you do to believe the bible.

in every day use the word theory means hunch ,in science its not "just that",its an explanation of how something works and doesnt mean lack of evidence.or ahh its a hunch they got fook all.

 

THEORY: to explain a fact:

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What i would like to know is why these weak people even feel the need to involve a third party in their thoughts,their day to day living and their very being .Cant they make do with running their own lives how they want to live it without it being in the back of their minds. What exactly do they think is showing them the path .Evolution hasnt been kind to this band of weaklings i guess.

They're not weak.They're being manipulated by a religion,or are using it to manipulate others.

 

The weakness lies with everyone taken in by it mate .They do not recruit by force .Its all willingly accepted by weak people.

 

Yeah being a Christian here is optional now,and Christianity is dying.With enough conditioning and the right environment you could make a child believe in anything,including Yahweh.

 

And this is where it all goes wrong for the faithful .Why do you think its necessary to teach a kid religion if its so much part of what you think we are .Surely it would come as naturally as breathing if it were the path we were to follow .

 

I think you've misinterpreted my post.

 

Or is having faith in the laws of nature wrong?

 

I wouldn't indoctrinate a kid to believe in any god.

 

We're no longer living in an environment thats natural to us,our pre Christian ancestors I believe were more intelligent and intuitive especially as far as nature is concerned,than we are today.

 

Their 'religions' I interpret as symbolic,but I already posted all this.

 

Gotcha mate and i agree

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I'm talking about this branch of science, where are the 'strong minded free thinkers' to refute my claims that the scientific explanation is all just THEORY ?

Nowhere, they wont debate because they are uncomfortable with the fact that no one knows !

 

Theories have some logical thought behind them.

Christianity exists to cultivate human weakness making people easier to rule.

It's so obvious when you look at it now,without the risk of being burned alive for questioning yahwehs mercy.

That's why Islam continues to expand but Christianity is dying.

You could say that. Religion is based on the worship of something stronger than yourself. People of faith believe they have an obligation to follow the teachings of Christ. This is very similiar, or exactly like being ruled. In the past people particularlly in Europe were essentially ordered to believe. We know now that this is not a very effective way to propagate the faith. Islam will learn this too. In the meantime they will most likely take over the states that in the past had been ordered to believe in Christ. I'm sorry for the suffering that will be delivered onto those who do believe, and struggle to maintain their faith.

 

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It is effective if you do it properly.

 

We've had this strange Jewish death cult used against us for well over 1000 years,that should tell you how effective it is.

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The 'big bang' is an absurd concept, the 'theory of evolution' is just that . . . .a theory.

You need as much faith to believe 'science, as you do to believe the bible.

in every day use the word theory means hunch ,in science its not "just that",its an explanation of how something works and doesnt mean lack of evidence.or ahh its a hunch they got fook all.

 

THEORY: to explain a fact:

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Nice cherry picking. lolzlolzlolz

 

To round off, I would just say that organised religion has been infiltrated like everything else to divert us from our spiritual connection to the land and our divine rendezvous.

 

As Dave Allen used to say 'goodnight, and may your god go with you'

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The week one bit was a double edger mate seeing as this has run a week .Get it week one .lost on some i know but should have highlighted it ;lol

Errr, yeah, don't give up the day job !If you have f**k all else in your life then fine, but it don't make people who have something else weak.How the f**k would you know the difference between weak and strong.........it's you I would consider weak minded as you have f**k all else in your bag than to just mock people mate.There's lads on this thread who don't believe but have offered up decent well written responses, what have you offered
Condescending prick .As this is an open forum open to all members i am entitled to take the piss out of weak people if i feel the need.I am a none believer and as such it it my privelige to mock those weaker than myself . There is no deep meaning to life ,we live we die. Its what fills that gap that interests me and no third party is havong a say on what i do .Off the high horse and suck it up .

"People weaker than me"........get on the crack of you.

 

Self praise is no recommendation as far as I am concerned.

You crack on.

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What i would like to know is why these weak people even feel the need to involve a third party in their thoughts,their day to day living and their very being .Cant they make do with running their own lives how they want to live it without it being in the back of their minds. What exactly do they think is showing them the path .Evolution hasnt been kind to this band of weaklings i guess.

They're not weak.They're being manipulated by a religion,or are using it to manipulate others.
The weakness lies with everyone taken in by it mate .They do not recruit by force .Its all willingly accepted by weak people.
Yeah being a Christian here is optional now,and Christianity is dying.With enough conditioning and the right environment you could make a child believe in anything,including Yahweh.
And this is where it all goes wrong for the faithful .Why do you think its necessary to teach a kid religion if its so much part of what you think we are .Surely it would come as naturally as breathing if it were the path we were to follow .

IMHO children require nurture and guidance, better in my eyes to guide them into positive ways of living, chose love over hate, chose peace over anger, be happy not resentful.......a little better than dog eat dog don't you think?

 

Looking at your signature you may keep terriers, do you drop a pup in at 4 months old simply because its in their blood to work?......no, of course you don't , it's time and care and positive experience until the right time comes.

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What i would like to know is why these weak people even feel the need to involve a third party in their thoughts,their day to day living and their very being .Cant they make do with running their own lives how they want to live it without it being in the back of their minds. What exactly do they think is showing them the path .Evolution hasnt been kind to this band of weaklings i guess.

They're not weak.They're being manipulated by a religion,or are using it to manipulate others.
The weakness lies with everyone taken in by it mate .They do not recruit by force .Its all willingly accepted by weak people.
Yeah being a Christian here is optional now,and Christianity is dying.With enough conditioning and the right environment you could make a child believe in anything,including Yahweh.
And this is where it all goes wrong for the faithful .Why do you think its necessary to teach a kid religion if its so much part of what you think we are .Surely it would come as naturally as breathing if it were the path we were to follow .

IMHO children require nurture and guidance, better in my eyes to guide them into positive ways of living, chose love over hate, chose peace over anger, be happy not resentful.......a little better than dog eat dog don't you think?

Looking at your signature you may keep terriers, do you drop a pup in at 4 months old simply because its in their blood to work?......no, of course you don't , it's time and care and positive experience until the right time comes.

Keeping things positive doesn't mean you need to indoctrinate them.

 

Christianity's hardly positive is it?

 

You were born evil,they symbolically drowned your pagan soul in a church font when you were christened but you are still evil and unworthy of The Lord.

So get on your knees and beg for forgiveness every night,and beg for everyone else to be forgiven too.

Losing is winning and winning is losing,so give everything you own to people who haven't earned it,that's of it hasn't already been taken from you while you turned the other cheek while you and your family were robbed blind.

 

That's not a healthy attitude,and not one anyone should be instilling in a child.

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That's a fair shout mate and looking back at what I have written I think I will stand corrected, I don't suppose it matters who you are or what you have done........I suppose what really matters is who you are now.

 

Fair play, see, you made me think about that one ;)

 

 

Was just an observation mate you sound like you are a little further along than i am in your understanding.....i know what feels right and maybe we can never be 100% but me still being at the " gathering information " stage thats the only reason what you said stood out and didnt sit right with me.....thats all :thumbs:

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What i would like to know is why these weak people even feel the need to involve a third party in their thoughts,their day to day living and their very being .Cant they make do with running their own lives how they want to live it without it being in the back of their minds. What exactly do they think is showing them the path .Evolution hasnt been kind to this band of weaklings i guess.

They're not weak.They're being manipulated by a religion,or are using it to manipulate others.
The weakness lies with everyone taken in by it mate .They do not recruit by force .Its all willingly accepted by weak people.
Yeah being a Christian here is optional now,and Christianity is dying.With enough conditioning and the right environment you could make a child believe in anything,including Yahweh.
And this is where it all goes wrong for the faithful .Why do you think its necessary to teach a kid religion if its so much part of what you think we are .Surely it would come as naturally as breathing if it were the path we were to follow .

IMHO children require nurture and guidance, better in my eyes to guide them into positive ways of living, chose love over hate, chose peace over anger, be happy not resentful.......a little better than dog eat dog don't you think?

 

Looking at your signature you may keep terriers, do you drop a pup in at 4 months old simply because its in their blood to work?......no, of course you don't , it's time and care and positive experience until the right time comes.

 

 

Do you think your beliefs help you to raise your children Wilf?

 

I think most parents would like to think they try their best to instill most of those virtues into their kids, religous or not...

 

|One thing I don't understand is people who are not in the least bit religious having their children christened?.... Although I'm a god parent to 2 people so maybe I'm being hypocritical

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The weakness lies with everyone taken in by it mate .They do not recruit by force .Its all willingly accepted by weak people.

 

 

Some of the mentally strongest people ive ever come across.........you are calling weak !!...............which tells me at the end of the day we all see whatever we want to see and thats why religion is such a private and individual thing.

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What i would like to know is why these weak people even feel the need to involve a third party in their thoughts,their day to day living and their very being .Cant they make do with running their own lives how they want to live it without it being in the back of their minds. What exactly do they think is showing them the path .Evolution hasnt been kind to this band of weaklings i guess.

 

They're not weak.They're being manipulated by a religion,or are using it to manipulate others.
The weakness lies with everyone taken in by it mate .They do not recruit by force .Its all willingly accepted by weak people.
Yeah being a Christian here is optional now,and Christianity is dying.With enough conditioning and the right environment you could make a child believe in anything,including Yahweh.
And this is where it all goes wrong for the faithful .Why do you think its necessary to teach a kid religion if its so much part of what you think we are .Surely it would come as naturally as breathing if it were the path we were to follow .

IMHO children require nurture and guidance, better in my eyes to guide them into positive ways of living, chose love over hate, chose peace over anger, be happy not resentful.......a little better than dog eat dog don't you think?

Looking at your signature you may keep terriers, do you drop a pup in at 4 months old simply because its in their blood to work?......no, of course you don't , it's time and care and positive experience until the right time comes.

Do you think your beliefs help you to raise your children Wilf?

 

I think most parents would like to think they try their best to instill most of those virtues into their kids, religous or not...

 

|One thing I don't understand is people who are not in the least bit religious having their children christened?.... Although I'm a god parent to 2 people so maybe I'm being hypocritical

I have to think about the right words as I write this mate..........I think my present level of what I think I understand about life helps me to help them

As in, you never want your kids to have to learn things the hard way.

Now, that attitude is not the sole property of those who have some kind of faith.......all parents I would think want the same.

 

When I was a kid, you had to fight.....that was how you dealt with problems in an area with every mix of people under the sun.

Weather someone was big, small, in a gang or whatever the default outcome was that you give it to them so hard they never wanted any more.........which is fine upto a point.

 

But what my faith/understanding has showne is that if your not very careful you can end up living your life like that and no matter what happens you can't find any peace or see any beauty......your always on the look out for the next person or thing to fight against, and mate, it just wares you out......never happy, never ever happy

 

Then you start doing things that you think should make you happy but they just push the true happiness further away.

 

If having some type of faith can stear my children round that and let them just get on with the business of life then it's helped in droves

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