neil cooney 10,416 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Not really Stop End. I think your post is some sort of a bitchy attack on me rather doing something about the problem. Any references I've made about individuals being harassed were made because I've spoken to terriermen from the North. You should try it. Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Now now... neil maybe you have took it that way....so im sorry if this has happened .. but I.W.T.F. business, asspirations and intentions is not for open forums... its for terriermen/women who want to protect, preserve and promote the working terrier in 2014 and many many years beyond, who put egos and dislikes aside and stand together and unite...for 1 purpose and 1 purpose only to PROTECT the working terrier, and the very people who work them and what very little freedom we have left... they are a very dedicated committee with many dedicated members who not only spend every spare hour working terriers they spend every other spare hour defending terrierwork... so have no time for petty squabbling.... after all we do enough squabbling with individuals who already dislike our way of life without squabbling with men who also spend their life doing it .. i hope you dont take this as a bitchy comment.... but if interested in how the IWTF propose to go forward then you should join up... 1 Quote Link to post
stop.end 4,079 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Unfortunately at the moment there's a very, very anti terrierwork move on by the PSNI. It looks like they have been briefed and believe the lies that certain members of the USPCA have told them. One terrierman who asked them to stop harassing him even though they know he only hunts fox was told that they'd leave him alone when he gave up terrierwork altogether as they know that terriermen kill terriers and foxes by hitting them over the head with shovels. No mention of badgers. Are the I.W.T.F. on the case ? It's clear harassment of those who carry out a lawful pursuit . LOL...... Quote Link to post
the fir bullagh 2 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Whitefeet the likes of your post is part of the problem. Lads are being stopped and intimidated by police who themselves are not fully aware of the law. But your post proves that a lot of hunting folk don't know the law either, nor do they know their rights. The hunting act that was brought in in England and Wales doesn't apply to N.I. Badgers have been fully protected at this stage in all of the UK and Ireland for over 30 years now. The Hunting Act might be over turned but the Badger Acts never. It's legal in all of the UK and Ireland to work fox with a terrier (provided the guidelines and rules are applied) so when the police are harassing folk they know are within the law then it's worrying. Isn't Stop End of here the N.I. rep for the IWTF ? Maybe he could enlighten us as to the N.I. situation. ALROUNDER, i am sorry to hear of you unfortunate incident, if you had been a member of the I.W.T.F. and had of informed us at the time of the situation we may have been able to give you some advice and pointed you in the right direction of how to proceed about getting your equipment back! Which we have already been able to do for 2 I.W.T.F. members from NI and are both members off here..... Now the I.W.T.F. is a Federation and has a voted in committee, it has no representitives NORTH or SOUTH a representitive is the way the fell and moorland operate as that is a working terrier club! Neil the I.W.T.F. was set up to protect promote and preserver terrier work and its paid up members ( terriermen/women) throughout the whole of Ireland who operate under a code of conduct, now if I.W.T.F. members no matter if they north or south of Ireland operate within the guidelines of our code of conduct and come uner any inconvinience by the authorities then the I.W.T.F. will make it there business to defend all members who have been wrongly accused... Now Neil i thought by your boastfull posts you may have been a clued up individual and could fully acknowledge at this present time, that yes, some aspects of iligitimate people involved in "so called" terrierwork north and south is under the microscope but do not scare monger, you could have got that information from bbc1 news at 10 on tuesday night lol...... so this is the reason why i can not enlighten you ( as you say) or any other individual on a public forum of I.W.T.F. busines or intentions, the only thing i may suggests because i notice Neil through some of your recent posts, even yourself is not fully aware of what is lawful or unlawful terrierwork north or south.... that for £10 a year membership fee we can give you the facts, of what you can and cant do... hope this enlightens you a little! Lord help us if this is the best response from the I.W.T.F. Typical of the terrier world it tuns into a who's got the biggest dick competition, self promotion at the cost of the collective that's surly going to preserve terrierwork for generations to come. 1 Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 So if i'm correct in my assumption...The IWTF will not tell you what's legal and what's not unless you join up to the sum of X amount of ££££££££'s.?? would that be a correct assumption? Even though you say you are for promoting legitimate terrier work in Ireland. So is it a case of give us your money or you'll be left in the dark as to your rights?? Because if that is the case..then that club needs to die a death very quickly or be run by someone who genuinely wants to promote terrier work without thinking of the £££££££££'s first above other people's misfortunes. If this is wrong then i apologise whole heartedly ...atb stabba 4 Quote Link to post
p3d 879 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 This is advice to all I.W.T.F. members. Keep away from this post. If anyone needs information regarding the I.W.T.F. Contact us directly at www.IWTF.ie. 3 Quote Link to post
fox digger 1,086 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 is stop end on the committee of the i.w.t.f? Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 Unfortunately at the moment there's a very, very anti terrierwork move on by the PSNI. It looks like they have been briefed and believe the lies that certain members of the USPCA have told them. One terrierman who asked them to stop harassing him even though they know he only hunts fox was told that they'd leave him alone when he gave up terrierwork altogether as they know that terriermen kill terriers and foxes by hitting them over the head with shovels. No mention of badgers. Are the I.W.T.F. on the case ? It's clear harassment of those who carry out a lawful pursuit . LOL...... I find it worrying that you find that funny ? Quote Link to post
fox digger 1,086 Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 so do i neil..... Quote Link to post
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