arcticgun 4,548 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Well I'm undecided still because I never hit her so, I don't know I don't want to put my blood line to sleep,, I'm stressed and it's 2 wet to take her out ![/quote? Week off n back too basics , maybe worth a try Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 you need to be the dogs world and reason for being, crack that and training is a doodle. some dogs are more nervy other more head strong, makes no difference if your the centre of their world, never had to beat a dog just tone of voice should be all that's needed, if the red mist starts to rise walk away and resume another day Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 A dogs world revolves around its stomach , you become the center of its world because it realises you put food in its stomach, just the same with a litter of pups until you ween them the bitch is the center of their world as arctic said observe how the bitch has ways to check ban behavior and ways to encourage play and even encourage basic hunting instinct. When you feed a nervous dog make sure you spend 10 /15 minutes with it at feed times they soon associate you with the food and you should talk to them , stroke and make a fuss of them once they allow this familiarity without running away or cowering you are on your way to breaking the nervousness if you have to discipline them do it in a similar way as they bitch scruff it and put its cheek to the ground for a couple of seconds while emphasiseing no. Don,t get into a battle of wills you are the dominant partner in the arrangement. Don,t try to train a nervous dog with other pack members around as they get strength from them and will try to ignore you until it accepts you as pack leader. Calm and relaxed whether it takes a week or 6 months repetition is the way you train dogs and once they accept the pack position the training becomes easier. If you cant hold your temper then you shouldn,t be training anything until you have trained yourself. 3 Quote Link to post
long dog 125 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 well I think you covered everything with her, and I would have done the same as you . I hate sensitive dogs I just loose respect for them, I try to think different about them but I carnt change neither can they. all my dogs are nervy of me, because I am to dominate with them but that's me as a person, some blokes would be softer towards them but we all different. I suppose its really if there good at there job in the field, that counts well for me it does ,because if you carnt get on with the dog temp and its not doing what you want in field , why keep it? life to short to keep fecking about with things like this. Bryn my dog ive said many times I don't like his temp, but he been great at his job in the field, if he hadn't he would have been gone years back, my pup Buck similar temp to Bryn , which I don't like but showing promise in the field, so I will see how it goes ith him for the future.? with your pup be honest with your self, if you really carnt get on with it , let somebody else have her who might get on better with that type temp, I know I couldn't . bird i am the same as you had a saluki pup from a lad from here his sensitive and stubborn nature done my head in i think you have to look at the parents very closely before choosing a pup. ATB long dog Quote Link to post
spiderfly 111 Posted January 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Thanks to everyone who gave great advice and I hope people with the same problem read this and learn from these wise men. the good news is the Bitch is ok now. To cut a long story short. She was kennelled and execerised mainly with her litter mate who is a rough bold dog very out going, he was knocking her back and I was 2 blind to see it, took her one to one again today with a relaxed mood and she was fine but the big problem was in the kennel but now she has her own and is 100% so just more time and this will all be sorted thanks again lads and happy hunting I will keep ye posted! 2 Quote Link to post
bird 9,989 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Thanks to everyone who gave great advice and I hope people with the same problem read this and learn from these wise men. the good news is the Bitch is ok now. To cut a long story short. She was kennelled and execerised mainly with her litter mate who is a rough bold dog very out going, he was knocking her back and I was 2 blind to see it, took her one to one again today with a relaxed mood and she was fine but the big problem was in the kennel but now she has her own and is 100% so just more time and this will all be sorted thanks again lads and happy hunting I will keep ye posted! sounds promising that, keep up the good work , I had to separate my 2 as my pup was oriented to my older dog [bonded] ,I put him in with the older dog when the pup was 8 weeks old him for 3 months , didn't think anything of it , as most people put young pups with older dogs to settle down when you 1st bring them home. they have there own kennels+ run, now but the bond the pup got to my older dog is still very strong, and my older dog will still try to protect my pup from other dogs, even though the pup hell of a lot bigger than him Quote Link to post
mud 2,044 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) ........... Edited November 3, 2014 by mud Quote Link to post
brazer 287 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Dogs and pups need a lot of encouragement. Time and effort pays off and something to remember is each dog has its own nature some are more dominant than others and become territorial to new members of the pack. Me mate had two pups in the kennel and one was a nervous wreck but when out socialising with the other dogs was a different story. Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 How a person can contribute to a topic like this and be known to thrash his dogs to a state where they are scared of him I will never know. Who? If you don't mind me asking. Quote Link to post
stabba 10,745 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 One on One is the key. No other distractions just you and the pup/sapling. Had a similar experience recently which turned from an un confident pup to an outgoing keen as mustard yearling who i now have really high hopes for. patience and lots of it 2 Quote Link to post
sowhat 1,572 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I sympathise with any one who has a nervous dog, especially when you've bred it yourself. Milly was always a bit on the jumpy side, any sudden loud or strange noise would spook her, 2 dog dishes banging together made her squeal.Her litter brother was so different, and yet they had both been brought up exactly the same. I think that's partly the reason why I kept her out of the litter of two, thinking that a change of home, routine etc...would make her even worse. She's always been wary of strangers, which I don't mind, as no-one could pinch her. She's very obedient, slightly submissive, but at the same time she's quite headstrong.She's not the best working dog I've ever owned but she loves to please and try's her heart out at anything. As a lot on here know, I love racing as well as working, so to try to give Milly more confidence and to socialise her She came with me to the track.One day I decided to give her a go as she was showing a lot of interest, and she loved it. So now, even though she's still a bit tempremental, I have a dog that I can take out mooching, to catch me the odd rabbit, and she'll even win me the odd lurcher race.She's great with the grandkids, does as she's told most of the time, so I'll put up with her nervousness. Hope your pup turns out half as good and gives you as much pleasure as Milly gives me. ATB 1 Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Its funny lads saying they never got on with the dogs temperament.. I recon the dogs never got on with theirs.. Not all cases but most create the problem and make it worst.. I have seen lads shouting a balling for dogs to come back, then when they finally have, hey then got kicked in the ribs.. Its a no brainer really If its wired up wrong from birth and is a bag of nerves.. Its difficult.. If it was my dog.. I would take it in the van with me all the time.. Let it kip in a crate in the house.. Walk it multiple times a day, in different areas ie around the local shops, school gates build its confidence up slowly, graded exposure.. I would do a fair bit of training on the lead & long line.. Loads of fuss and food.. Get the line longer as it improves and then go back to off the lead.. No point letting off lead now, if its scared and running off.. Your setting your self and dog up to fail, from the off.. Hope you get it sorted mate Edited January 13, 2014 by Giro 2 Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 There's,a difference. Between natural nerves and a dog being afraid of its owner because it's owner doesn't understand it and beats and kicks it. A so called good dog man... Wouldn't let him keep.a funking hamster Quote Link to post
nomoon 542 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 One on One is the key. No other distractions just you and the pup/sapling. Had a similar experience recently which turned from an un confident pup to an outgoing keen as mustard yearling who i now have really high hopes for. patience and lots of it gotta agree patience is the key,got a pup here scared witless of cars, an hour a day in asda carpark,praise and loves and shes getting there , atb mc Quote Link to post
wuyang 513 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 There's,a difference. Between natural nerves and a dog being afraid of its owner because it's owner doesn't understand it and beats and kicks it. A so called good dog man... Wouldn't let him keep.a funking hamster Who? Quote Link to post
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