Williampalmer 20 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 You say you've. "Trained" that mink , you havnt lol , it's just doing what comes naturally to it , running around in a muddy ditch chasing anything it sees, then when it finally does make a kill you put the carry box next to it and it takes it inside then you pretend you've thought it to do that haha, that isn't training, get your head out of your ass minkenry 1 Link to post
Minkenry 1,044 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 You say you've. "Trained" that mink , you havnt lol , it's just doing what comes naturally to it , running around in a muddy ditch chasing anything it sees, then when it finally does make a kill you put the carry box next to it and it takes it inside then you pretend you've thought it to do that haha, that isn't training, get your head out of your ass minkenry Really, lets see you do it then. You go catch a mink, "train" it to run around in a muddy ditch chasing anything it sees, then get it to put what it catches in a box. Heck, I challenge you to do that with ANY non ferret! When you're done, make a video and show us what you've done. I'd bet a fair sum of money you couldn't even get a mink to let you hold it bare handed, and that's the easy part. Talks cheep buddy, let's see what you can do! 1 Link to post
Minkenry 1,044 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 You say you've. "Trained" that mink , you havnt lol , it's just doing what comes naturally to it , running around in a muddy ditch chasing anything it sees, then when it finally does make a kill you put the carry box next to it and it takes it inside then you pretend you've thought it to do that haha, that isn't training, get your head out of your ass minkenry Really, lets see you do it then. You go catch a mink, "train" it to run around in a muddy ditch chasing anything it sees, then get it to put what it catches in a box. Heck, I challenge you to do that with ANY non ferret! When you're done, make a video and show us what you've done. I'd bet a fair sum of money you couldn't even get a mink to let you hold it bare handed, and that's the easy part. Talks cheep buddy, let's see what you can do! Oh, and when you're done with that, lets see you train a mink to go in a chicken coop, ignore the squaking chickens, kill a rat, then drag it out and put it in it's box. Watch this video... Talks cheap buddy. Let's see what you can do! Link to post
Minkenry 1,044 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) You say you've. "Trained" that mink , you havnt lol , it's just doing what comes naturally to it , running around in a muddy ditch chasing anything it sees, then when it finally does make a kill you put the carry box next to it and it takes it inside then you pretend you've thought it to do that haha, that isn't training, get your head out of your ass minkenry Oh, and one last thing. Since what I do is so easy, I say you put your money where your mouth is. $250 U.S. Dollars says you can't train a mink to do what mine do. It takes me 2-3 months to train a mink, I'll double that and give you six months. Do we have a bet? Edited January 12, 2014 by Minkenry Link to post
Katsdad 31 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I got a ferret that'll chew up mink and spit em out He's huge Link to post
Minkenry 1,044 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) I got a ferret that'll chew up mink and spit em out He's huge I say you trap a mink and throw them in together. Then come and tell us who got chewed up. Mink are far from invincible. They are nervous little animals, so they must get killed by predators all the time in the wild. Also, a little terrier has no problem killing a wild buck mink. But I'm sorry, you are being quite foolish in saying any ferret can tangle with a mink. It's not a question of size. Ferrets don't have the heart, speed, or biting power, and their bodies are far too fragile. I may not be a big ferreter like you guys, but I have had 3 ferrets, and did a little hunting with them. I know their abilities and the can't touch even a slow heartless mink. Talks cheep man, if you think he can do it, go trap a mink and lets see. Us arguing about if he can theoretically do it is as pointless as me getting into a big debate with the terrier guys about if my mink can take a small terrier. We'll never know, because I will never try it. I honestly don't really care if my big male will take a terrier, because I have no desire to hunt terriers lol. But if you honestly think your ferret can handle a mink, go catch an average sized buck mink in a live trap, and throw him in. P.S. my comments were not meant to knock on ferrets. They have skills that mink don't, and are a far better working animal than a mink. I'm just saying that fighting a mink is not one of them. If you ferret does kill an average sized adult male, then I will definitely give him props as that is quite a feet for a ferret! I'm sure somewhere there is a ferret that can do it, but I highly doubt size alone will be enough! Let us know the out come Edited January 12, 2014 by Minkenry Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 falconers have been trapping and training passage birds for years and then releasing them when they have done with them so its nothing new. i doubt your mink could manage anywhere near the amount of quarry a typical ferret puts in the bag in a season, some lads are doing 3 or 400 rabbits a week, some even more. Link to post
RubyTex 1,957 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Feck me this is getting on my tits now...outlandish claims like my ferret will kill a mink and my mink will kill any terrier?? For fucks sake lads. Let's have it out, a ferret would run from a mink and a terrier would rip a mink to bits. Capiche?? f*****g hell fire. Edited January 12, 2014 by RubyTex 2 Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 there is a point you have missed for domestication, if you take a passage goshawk it will not look at large ground game rabbit/hare but a captive bred one will take them with little effort as it has the falconer to back it up and finish the job quickly, the same may well be true of wild polecats would they exclusively live on what we believe them to live on basing our assumptions on our domesticated ferrets, the mink in the United kingdom are not truly wild but are indeed descended from semi domesticate stock that had no natural fear of humans or any idea on food sources for long term survival, having not had the history of the wild generations before them to imprint their behaviour, i spent a summer watching a couple of mink feeding their young near a wear-pool their diet consisted mainly of small rodents and young water birds, so perhaps they are learning through the generations what survival in the wild entails Link to post
Minkenry 1,044 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Feck me this is getting on my tits now...outlandish claims like my ferret will kill a mink and my mink will kill any terrier?? For fucks sake lads. Let's have it out, a ferret would run from a mink and a terrier would rip a mink to bits. Capiche?? f*****g hell fire. Oh hell no, there is no mink that could kill "any terrier". That is beyond silly! I think there is a chance that a very small working terrier with average abilities could be bested by a very very VERY exceptional mink, but who knows and who cares. I know mink have their limits, and this very well might be one of them. I am a dog man myself, and have hunted with multiple breeds, terriers being one of them. I also have a friend with a working terrier we are trying to train to work with our mink. I love and respect the little dogs, and know all too well what the average terrier can do to the average mink! My only point was that in the right circumstance their MIGHT be an exception. Like I said, I'm talking a VERY average VERY SMALL working terrier against a VERY exceptionally large and aggressive mink. EXCEPTIONAL being the key word!!!!! Link to post
Minkenry 1,044 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 falconers have been trapping and training passage birds for years and then releasing them when they have done with them so its nothing new. i doubt your mink could manage anywhere near the amount of quarry a typical ferret puts in the bag in a season, some lads are doing 3 or 400 rabbits a week, some even more. Oh yeah, of course. I am fully aware that a ferret will produce more game the way you guys hunt. I've always know that. Ferreting compared to minkenry is like shooting a gun compared to flying a hawk. They don't even compare when it comes to efficiency. But why do we falconers fly our birds? It's for the sport, not for numbers. Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 falconers have been trapping and training passage birds for years and then releasing them when they have done with them so its nothing new. i doubt your mink could manage anywhere near the amount of quarry a typical ferret puts in the bag in a season, some lads are doing 3 or 400 rabbits a week, some even more. Oh yeah, of course. I am fully aware that a ferret will produce more game the way you guys hunt. I've always know that. Ferreting compared to minkenry is like shooting a gun compared to flying a hawk. They don't even compare when it comes to efficiency. But why do we falconers fly our birds? It's for the sport, not for numbers. personally i did it for the challenge Link to post
Minkenry 1,044 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 there is a point you have missed for domestication, if you take a passage goshawk it will not look at large ground game rabbit/hare but a captive bred one will take them with little effort as it has the falconer to back it up and finish the job quickly, the same may well be true of wild polecats would they exclusively live on what we believe them to live on basing our assumptions on our domesticated ferrets, the mink in the United kingdom are not truly wild but are indeed descended from semi domesticate stock that had no natural fear of humans or any idea on food sources for long term survival, having not had the history of the wild generations before them to imprint their behaviour, i spent a summer watching a couple of mink feeding their young near a wear-pool their diet consisted mainly of small rodents and young water birds, so perhaps they are learning through the generations what survival in the wild entails We hunt large hares with passage goshawks all the time in the states, but I do get your point. A chamber raised bird or an imprint is going to be far more brazen than a passage bird. I hunt with pure ranch mink all the time, and they still have their instincts fully intact. Though I'm sure the instincts of a pure wild mink are much sharper. Link to post
Minkenry 1,044 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 falconers have been trapping and training passage birds for years and then releasing them when they have done with them so its nothing new. i doubt your mink could manage anywhere near the amount of quarry a typical ferret puts in the bag in a season, some lads are doing 3 or 400 rabbits a week, some even more. Oh yeah, of course. I am fully aware that a ferret will produce more game the way you guys hunt. I've always know that. Ferreting compared to minkenry is like shooting a gun compared to flying a hawk. They don't even compare when it comes to efficiency. But why do we falconers fly our birds? It's for the sport, not for numbers. personally i did it for the challenge Yep, me too Link to post
paulus 26 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 there is a point you have missed for domestication, if you take a passage goshawk it will not look at large ground game rabbit/hare but a captive bred one will take them with little effort as it has the falconer to back it up and finish the job quickly, the same may well be true of wild polecats would they exclusively live on what we believe them to live on basing our assumptions on our domesticated ferrets, the mink in the United kingdom are not truly wild but are indeed descended from semi domesticate stock that had no natural fear of humans or any idea on food sources for long term survival, having not had the history of the wild generations before them to imprint their behaviour, i spent a summer watching a couple of mink feeding their young near a wear-pool their diet consisted mainly of small rodents and young water birds, so perhaps they are learning through the generations what survival in the wild entails We hunt large hares with passage goshawks all the time in the states, but I do get your point. A chamber raised bird or an imprint is going to be far more brazen than a passage bird. I hunt with pure ranch mink all the time, and they still have their instincts fully intact. Though I'm sure the instincts of a pure wild mink are much sharper. its a simple matter of self preservation any injury or disadvantage( missing/broken primaries etc.) will likely lead to death in the wild, wild goshawks are in the main bird hunters of the forests, they do take small mammals but a good kick from a fully grown hare is likely to cause injury or damage Link to post
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