Mark Duggan

[Qbgrey 4,142]

 

 

lets look at it like this duggans a no good waster only good at shagging but the cop have some intel on him follow him stop the car he gets out and bang they shoot an unarmed member of the public fact

 

now we are at war with the taliban and marine a finds a raghead lay on the ground he hesitates assess the situation the raghead MAY have had a gun or a grenade marine a shoots him

 

 

marine a now gets done and put in nick --------- pc firearms gets a pat on the back and everything is rigged covered up

 

bear in mined were at war in one situation the other in another day in london how the hell can that be lawfull ---- the marine is lawfull if anybody is

 

That's not quite right though is is TOPPER. Sgt. Blackman was in no immediate threat, his squad had a bit of a jolly then decided to slug the insurgent. They didn't make a split second judgement call based on sketchy intelligence.

 

The two situations are nothing alike. That said, I don't particularly see any wrong in what Blackman did but that's for other reasons entirely.

 

but the raghead may HAVE HAD A GUN OR A GRENADE the same as duggan may have been armed but he wasnt , god know when i was on EOD in Ireland they boobytraped enough dead body s for us to blow ourselves up with , the fact is he wasnt armed and didnt pose a threat they admitted he got out peacefully Not waving a gun about -- what happen to innocent until proven guilty -- so next time your out with the dogs and armed response turn up and shoot you thats ok then after all you may have a firearm !!!!

 

totally different case mate about duggan i mean,...1 .they knew he had collected an illegal hand gun.2.intellingence shows hes dangerous.3.hes got a long criminal past involving violence/gangs etc.4.they may have seen handgun 20yrdaway,he may have had another.................bit different to a guy in the countryside,walking along with a legally held gun,you see police coming unload,stand gun against fence and say hello fellas.

[Born Hunter 17,798]

 

but the raghead may HAVE HAD A GUN OR A GRENADE the same as duggan may have been armed but he wasnt , god know when i was on EOD in Ireland they boobytraped enough dead body s for us to blow ourselves up with , the fact is he wasnt armed and didnt pose a threat they admitted he got out peacefully Not waving a gun about -- what happen to innocent until proven guilty -- so next time your out with the dogs and armed response turn up and shoot you thats ok then after all you may have a firearm !!!!

 

 

 

You know as well as I do that's not why Blackman shot him. It was a simple execution and I'm fine with that.

 

LOL, next time I'm out with my dogs, LOL. Yeah if I'm picking up an illegally held pistol, yeah they can shoot me, LOL. FFS keep it real. If I'm under police surveillance for such a thing while out with the dogs they can crack on. LOL. Fortunately I choose not to put myself in such situations.

[Born Hunter 17,798]

 

 

 

mate if they had of erred on the side of caution he would still be alive and no one would be dead on that tube because there wasn't any bombers on there. I do get what your saying it is a hard job but to many innocent people have died and again I'm not talking about Duggan but people with no links to any crime . Fair play mate different opinions

 

 

Well obviously! LOL. Hindsight is always viewed with 20/20 vision. So you believe they should take the policy of "errr maybe he's not a bomber" with every incident? I simply don't agree with that because it would be the most ineffective and dangerous policy for everyone. They have to trust their intelligence and act ruthlessly, I would be ashamed with anything less.

 

wow that suprises me mate.

were not talking about some war zone here.its the streets of britain.your gonna draw a gun and shoot some c**t then i want more than just a fleeting glance at someones arse.

that could have been anyone that got plugged by them, do a wee bit of reading born about special branch and security forces given carte blanche in northern ireland. some of it is shocking reading,and tbh in some cases unbelievable.

 

 

Scott I didn't say that did I. They acted on poor intelligence and got the wrong man. They have to have a shoot to kill policy with bombers, anything less would result in bombs going off. Hence they can't errr on the side of caution.

 

What happened in NI is another thing all together. A lot of stuff alleged to have happened. I've read a bit about it, but no expert.

Edited January 9, 2014 by Born Hunter

[bird 9,970]

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Exactly Wilf ffs
You don't carry a handgun around for fook all.
He was at it and paid the price.
Prob here about this for the next 20
While Lee Rigbys swept under the carpet.

spot on max, I thought the family came over like dregs to where you find dregs,? where as Lee Rigbsy mom+ dad showed dignity. with Lee,s murder

[j j m 6,555]

if you carry a illegal gun and the police come upon you you may well get shot thats the chance you take

[scothunter 12,609]

its no longer alleged mate,public can see it. love to read the stuff they wont let you lol

 

i have great admiration for the security forces,and thejob they do,but i also know there shady c**ts and no to be trusted lol

[TOPPER 1,809]

BUT THE FACT IS HE WAS UN ARMED AND GOT OUT OF THE TAXI PEACEFULLY AND AS SOON AS HE TURNED TOWARDS THE COPPER HE SHOT HIM IN ANY OTHER TIMEFRAME THEYED CALL THAT AN EXECUTION , he was a scrot and good riddence to him but the cops are to big for thee boot s and answer to know one everything is covered up just like the old days in Northern Ireland when we did have a shoot to kill policy and a good few got shot just on someones say so but its not right and should be investigated by an outside body not the cops

[TUFFTY 1,476]

Soon the evidence will be written in the papers for everyone to view.

I work in Tottenham and in 2012 marks uncle was doing sond painting for me.

 

This is a stitch up end off.

My last on this subject as alot of blinded people seem to be talking utter poppycock.

Edited January 9, 2014 by TUFFTY

[scothunter 12,609]

i seen a restruction on newsnight ages ago, he didnt even get out car.the cops drew alongside him and one in the back shot him through the open window?

 

has that been found out not to be the case? first i heard he got out the car. typical.stories in an abundance

[Born Hunter 17,798]

its no longer alleged mate,public can see it. love to read the stuff they wont let you lol

 

i have great admiration for the security forces,and thejob they do,but i also know there shady c**ts and no to be trusted lol

 

I'm a bit into reading about 14 Int etc but that's just autobiographys. Be interested in anything else too?

 

Worst allegation I've heard recently was special operations teams, probably along the lines of 14 Int, setting off bombs to kill Catholic civillians just to stir trouble and make the players move. I'm sceptical...

 

Some shady shit went on without doubt. It was very personal for a lot of those boys.

[lanesra 3,994]

You Can Talk All Day About Armed At The Exact Time He Was Shot . . The Bottom Line Is He Had A Gun And He Wasn't Looking Too Do Anything But Create Havoc And He Wasn't Fukced About With Which Should Be The Case . . Police In A Lose / Lose Situation If They'd Not Followed Up The Info On Him & He'd Off Off Killed Someone They'd Off Been Slaughtered . . Someone Was Dying Once That Gun Was Passed Too Him And I'd Rather It Him Than An Innocent By-Stander Like The Kid Off Here A Few Months Ago !!

[scothunter 12,609]

read lethal allies mate.(its meant to be shit hot reading) mate recommended it

there declassified files you can read online aswell. ages since i read them.do a search

 

another time another thread though.

[Nik_B 3,790]

Duggan's parents should be looking in a mirror to see who to blame. Bad parents raise bad kids.

[greg64 2,850]

strange that there was no fingerprints or dna on the gun and it took a considerable amount of time to find it,you would have thought there would of been something on the gun even though it was half wrapped in a sock,unless he was wearing gloves

[keepdiggin 9,561]

I wouldn't believe anything I read in the daily mirror.