Born Hunter 17,751 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Do they have a Peacock as their emblem? I used to work with a guy in Algeria who was in the intelligence services, interesting stories! Dunno about 14 Int. Nick, that was all a bit top secret as they basically lived in Ireland when on a tour with false names the works. The SRR have the standard UKSFs Excaliber and scroll but with a spartan-esque helmet as a cap badge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Duggan Had A Gun End Off . . . Anyone Thinking Otherwise Is Deluded . If It Was A Set-Up I Guarantee They'd Off Placed The Gun Around His Body Not 20yds Away . . Which Has Created A Sort Off Conspiracy Theory . . As For The Lad Shot On The Tube that Was A Bad Day For The Uk And Horrific For His Family , Though Id Say Those Involved In That Shooting Where Under Terrible Strain After The Previous Bombings . . Not An Excuse Just Facts !! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,645 Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Folk are cracking on like this dude was a local village boy innocently going about his business and killed by big bad mr cozzer....... Let me tell you, have a walk through Tottenham or Elephant and castle in the early hours on your jack jones.......if they want your phone these people will put more holes in you than enough and think absolutely f**k all of it !! Life, your life that is, means f**k all to them !! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 What if he was wearing a marine's uniform, before he decided to shoot? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 46,645 Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 if ya choose to live be the sword then ya have a chance of dying by the sword, no sympathy for him or his ilk they know fine well what they getting into , shame for his families loss, but better him than some innocent bystander, about time the police showed these divvy wannabees the true price f choosing to carry weapons Agree with that Can't help but feel that the story doesn't quite ring true though. If plod believed him to be armed, then they would have had the taxi under close surveillance. If Duggan had thrown the gun out of the window just prior to stopping, surely it would have been noticed. If he had lobbed it away after he got out, again, it would have been seen. The armed police would surely have had their weapons drawn and trained on him. Did he have a weapon drawn? did he go to draw a weapon? If that were the case, and I don't mean to speculate, then he would have been taken out no argument. I don't see how he could be deemed to be a threat given that situation. Then it took a while to produce the said weapon..??? It's the ones who are completely innocent who I feel sorry for along with their families, like the Brazilian and the guy with the chair leg in the carrier bag. Surely our armed police are trained to a higher standard than that. I recall an horrendous incident about 30 years ago... it was like a gunfight in Dodge City. Dug this up from t'internet. ON 14 JANUARY 1983, London was the scene of an armed police operation that shocked the nation. In Pembroke Road, Earl's Court, during the evening rush- hour, a yellow Mini with three passengers, one a woman, came to a halt in a traffic jam. A group of men converged upon the Mini from both sides. Without warning a series of shots was fired. A male passenger in the car escaped and ran away in shock. The woman was dragged out of the car, screaming and protesting. The driver, shot five times and seriously wounded in the head, abdomen and liver, was pulled clear by police. Handcuffed and bleeding profusely he was hauled across the pavement by his forearms. His name was Stephen Waldorf. Within an hour a senior officer at New Scotland Yard was making a public apology for 'a tragic case of mistaken identity' and announcing the launch of an immediate inquiry by the Complaints Investigation branch of the Metropolitan Police Service. Stephen Waldorf, a film editor, had been ambushed by plainclothes detectives in the belief that he was David Martin, an escaped prisoner who was accused of the attempted murder of a police officer and was also facing bank robbery and firearms charges. The ambush, staged in a busy thoroughfare in heavy traffic, was also seen as posing a serious threat to public safety as well as flouting rules governing the use of firearms by police officers. William Whitelaw, then the Home Secretary, promised that a full report would be passed to the then Police Complaints Board and the Director of Public Prosecutions. All steps would be taken to ensure that no such incident should ever happen again. Three detective constables were suspended during the inquiry. On 19 January 1983, detective constables John Jardine and Peter Finch were both charged with attempted murder. Both were remanded on bail. Stephen Waldorf was still in intensive care. Nine months later, on 19 October 1983, DCs Jardine and Finch were found not guilty as charged. Stephen Waldorf eventually recovered and was awarded £120,000 in compensation. After the Waldorf incident, changes in the selection, training and deployment of armed police were progressively introduced; but two incidents in 1985 resulted respectively in an accidental fatality and serious wounding. As a result, yet further changes in procedure were made and have continued to the present day. Steven Waldorf !!.......sorry but in my book, anyone named after a salad who drives a mini deserves to get plugged !! Lol lol 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 tut tut wilf lol he would have been able to eat in the waldorf. he got a right few quid for that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 4,086 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 hopefully it may deter these wannabe gun rappers,who have watched to many american movies about gangs from carrying on.londons allready full of these coons whho got no regard for life as long as they make a name for themselves.sad people ,sad l;ives,problem is you got lots of white boys talking like these black fools now,look at that c...t dappy,what a vile prik. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister Gain 1,764 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 if ya choose to live be the sword then ya have a chance of dying by the sword, no sympathy for him or his ilk they know fine well what they getting into , shame for his families loss, but better him than some innocent bystander, about time the police showed these divvy wannabees the true price f choosing to carry weapons Agree with that Can't help but feel that the story doesn't quite ring true though. If plod believed him to be armed, then they would have had the taxi under close surveillance. If Duggan had thrown the gun out of the window just prior to stopping, surely it would have been noticed. If he had lobbed it away after he got out, again, it would have been seen. The armed police would surely have had their weapons drawn and trained on him. Did he have a weapon drawn? did he go to draw a weapon? If that were the case, and I don't mean to speculate, then he would have been taken out no argument. I don't see how he could be deemed to be a threat given that situation. Then it took a while to produce the said weapon..??? It's the ones who are completely innocent who I feel sorry for along with their families, like the Brazilian and the guy with the chair leg in the carrier bag. Surely our armed police are trained to a higher standard than that. I recall an horrendous incident about 30 years ago... it was like a gunfight in Dodge City. Dug this up from t'internet. ON 14 JANUARY 1983, London was the scene of an armed police operation that shocked the nation. In Pembroke Road, Earl's Court, during the evening rush- hour, a yellow Mini with three passengers, one a woman, came to a halt in a traffic jam. A group of men converged upon the Mini from both sides. Without warning a series of shots was fired. A male passenger in the car escaped and ran away in shock. The woman was dragged out of the car, screaming and protesting. The driver, shot five times and seriously wounded in the head, abdomen and liver, was pulled clear by police. Handcuffed and bleeding profusely he was hauled across the pavement by his forearms. His name was Stephen Waldorf. Within an hour a senior officer at New Scotland Yard was making a public apology for 'a tragic case of mistaken identity' and announcing the launch of an immediate inquiry by the Complaints Investigation branch of the Metropolitan Police Service. Stephen Waldorf, a film editor, had been ambushed by plainclothes detectives in the belief that he was David Martin, an escaped prisoner who was accused of the attempted murder of a police officer and was also facing bank robbery and firearms charges. The ambush, staged in a busy thoroughfare in heavy traffic, was also seen as posing a serious threat to public safety as well as flouting rules governing the use of firearms by police officers. William Whitelaw, then the Home Secretary, promised that a full report would be passed to the then Police Complaints Board and the Director of Public Prosecutions. All steps would be taken to ensure that no such incident should ever happen again. Three detective constables were suspended during the inquiry. On 19 January 1983, detective constables John Jardine and Peter Finch were both charged with attempted murder. Both were remanded on bail. Stephen Waldorf was still in intensive care. Nine months later, on 19 October 1983, DCs Jardine and Finch were found not guilty as charged. Stephen Waldorf eventually recovered and was awarded £120,000 in compensation. After the Waldorf incident, changes in the selection, training and deployment of armed police were progressively introduced; but two incidents in 1985 resulted respectively in an accidental fatality and serious wounding. As a result, yet further changes in procedure were made and have continued to the present day. Steven Waldorf !!.......sorry but in my book, anyone named after a salad who drives a mini deserves to get plugged !! Lol lol tut tut wilf lol he would have been able to eat in the waldorf. he got a right few quid for that Yep, right laugh, until it's one of your relatives that the unproffesional, gung-ho old bill have gunned down. Any c*nt can run around shooting off a gun willy-nilly... so what is the difference between old bill doing it and killing or injuring an innocent person, and the likes of Duggan??? Don't get me wrong, Duggan and anyone like him deserve what they get.. got no time for them at all. But I'll tell you the difference.... the old bill will get covered up and exonerated... the alleged perpetrator won't. Why should the old bill literally get away with murder??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 4,086 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 what if my relative was nt a drug dealing,scum,whod had guns before,allegedly shot people and poss murdered someone,criminal history,well known gang member,...............then if he got shot yes i would of been looking for answers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 something like this...they will make the evidence fit the crime and save their own skin and or their own kin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 What would the panel say if Sgt Blackman shot, and killed, Duggan? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 4,086 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 What would the panel say if Sgt Blackman shot, and killed, Duggan? good shot sgt 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,498 Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Just seen the vigil for this scum bag on the news and suprise suprise socialist workers party banners were to be seen plus a banner from the RMT for f**k sake this fekin lowlife wasent an hard working family man he was the type thats dragging this country into the gutter ffs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Frann 882 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I haven't read through 10 pages so don't know if its been mentioned (apologies if it has) but wonder what would happen if it turned out the copper who shot him was black Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tatsblisters 9,498 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I haven't read through 10 pages so don't know if its been mentioned (apologies if it has) but wonder what would happen if it turned out the copper who shot him was black You will be suprised at how many black law abideing people will aggree with wat the police did. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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